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Old 12-14-2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bgmann
FINE WITH ME! I want to move to MSP. Hey what are the chances I can work an evening job from ~5p-11p while on Reserve with XJ (UPS MSP Air Sort). Is that something that could work under the XJ reserve schedule?

Hey I used to work at UPS before Mesaba doing the sorting job and from what I gathered when I inquired about getting my job back that if I couldnt be there I wouldnt be getting the job. Never hurts to ask but I highly doubt they will let you work there with the possibility of not showing up. If you do get the job please let me know so I can try again because those benies are the best ever.
Old 12-14-2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by submachXJ
As long as you can walk away from the job or not show up. I.E. to UPS they are just happy to have the extrra body if you show up but I don't think they work that way...could be wrong.

Hour and half call out to show then hour to departure on reserve.

How many of you guys have jobs outside of flying? For those that do what jobs have you found that allow you to leave when you need to and/or not show up?
Old 12-15-2008 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by taiwanpilot
How many of you guys have jobs outside of flying? For those that do what jobs have you found that allow you to leave when you need to and/or not show up?
I'm a server on the side...The restaurant lets me schedule around my days flying and on those days that I'm on reserve and there's a relatively early release (5pm) I can quickly pick up a shift from another person or call and ask if they need extra help. The restaurant is only open in the evening which helps.
Old 12-15-2008 | 06:38 AM
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I thought I would try and ask again, what is the training schedule like prior to going to the sim? (ie. 1 week indoc, 2 weeks systems?) Do you typically have a week off or so prior to going to sim training? Is it recommended to have a car in MSP during initial groundschool or can you get away with the hotel transportation and maybe renting a car a few times to get supplies? Thanks.
Old 12-15-2008 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by taiwanpilot
How many of you guys have jobs outside of flying? For those that do what jobs have you found that allow you to leave when you need to and/or not show up?
I work as a machinist/truck driver once in awhile on reserve days/days off.
Old 12-15-2008 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by submachXJ
As long as you can walk away from the job or not show up. I.E. to UPS they are just happy to have the extrra body if you show up but I don't think they work that way...could be wrong.

Hour and half call out to show then hour to departure on reserve.
I worked for UPS for 4 years both as an hourly, and on the management side, they expect you to be there every night, part time or not.

They will not be overly accommodating in terms of "only working 4 days a week", or submitting your availability in advance.

The old adage goes at UPS.

A part time job at UPS is a full time job in real life.
A full time job at UPS, is an all the time job.
Old 12-15-2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by johnson48
I thought I would try and ask again, what is the training schedule like prior to going to the sim? (ie. 1 week indoc, 2 weeks systems?) Do you typically have a week off or so prior to going to sim training? Is it recommended to have a car in MSP during initial groundschool or can you get away with the hotel transportation and maybe renting a car a few times to get supplies? Thanks.
In the Nov 3rd class we had one week of INDOC, followed by 7 days of general systems, and then 7 days of systems which is computer based and self paced. We had ground school on thanksgiving and had 3 days off before sim. Two people had a month off before sims, but a majority of the people only had a few days. You can get by without a car, the hotel shuttle will take you pretty much any place you want to go, I also rented a car from enterpirse when I was there for a weekend at 11 bucks a day so it wasnt too bad. It's a lot easier to just use the hotel shuttle though.
Old 12-15-2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by johnson48
I thought I would try and ask again, what is the training schedule like prior to going to the sim? (ie. 1 week indoc, 2 weeks systems?) Do you typically have a week off or so prior to going to sim training? Is it recommended to have a car in MSP during initial groundschool or can you get away with the hotel transportation and maybe renting a car a few times to get supplies? Thanks.
If I remember right it was a full month, something like 2 weeks of FOM and two weeks of systems. Then it ranged to a weekend off to 6 weeks off. No idea what they are running now. Most people did not have a car and managed to get by with just the hotel transportation.
Old 12-15-2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
I worked for UPS for 4 years both as an hourly, and on the management side, they expect you to be there every night, part time or not.

They will not be overly accommodating in terms of "only working 4 days a week", or submitting your availability in advance.

The old adage goes at UPS.

A part time job at UPS is a full time job in real life.
A full time job at UPS, is an all the time job.
I was a delivery driver for 2 years, and yes that was VERY MUCH "all the time job", you end up bleeding Brown at that point. Interested in keeping my foot in the door by part-time sort or loader, sounds like that wont work with an unknown reserve schedule. I couldnt promote from driver to pilot, so i left and to go get my PIC turbine Part 121 time
Old 12-15-2008 | 11:39 AM
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Jesrober & Jayray,
Thanks for the info.
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