Delaying Interviews
03-08-2020, 12:54 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
You do realize AA was gasping for air while the other guys were making billions right?
And I’m just saying that’s what has been done in the past. It’s much easier to “right-size” your own operations than declare bankruptcy just to escape a contract with a regional partner. How is declaring bankruptcy more logical?
And I’m just saying that’s what has been done in the past. It’s much easier to “right-size” your own operations than declare bankruptcy just to escape a contract with a regional partner. How is declaring bankruptcy more logical?
You work at xjet, and will soon be flying new-to-you airplanes from a shuttered regional. I was also specifically talking about RAH, who filed for bankruptcy in 2016 essentially to dump some turboprops. Not sure how you don't understand that this stuff happens in this industry with some regularity.
03-08-2020, 03:20 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
What does AA "gasping for air" (not sure when you are talking about??) have anything to do with this conversation? I have a decent handle on what is going on at AA my friend... This conversation is about a hypothetical drastic cut in flying, pretty sure if that happens to the extent that planes are parked, bankruptcy wouldn't be a stretch
You work at xjet, and will soon be flying new-to-you airplanes from a shuttered regional. I was also specifically talking about RAH, who filed for bankruptcy in 2016 essentially to dump some turboprops. Not sure how you don't understand that this stuff happens in this industry with some regularity.
You work at xjet, and will soon be flying new-to-you airplanes from a shuttered regional. I was also specifically talking about RAH, who filed for bankruptcy in 2016 essentially to dump some turboprops. Not sure how you don't understand that this stuff happens in this industry with some regularity.
I’m referring to the lack of profitability at AA given the boom in aviation. And if you are referring to RAH you are again suggesting that AA would prefer to just back out of a contract with RAH than park it’s own aircraft. You may be mistaken on which would be more costly. Very mistaken.
But that flow...
03-08-2020, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
I’m referring to the lack of profitability at AA given the boom in aviation. And if you are referring to RAH you are again suggesting that AA would prefer to just back out of a contract with RAH than park it’s own aircraft. You may be mistaken on which would be more costly. Very mistaken.
But that flow...
But that flow...
03-08-2020, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
I’m referring to the lack of profitability at AA given the boom in aviation. And if you are referring to RAH you are again suggesting that AA would prefer to just back out of a contract with RAH than park it’s own aircraft. You may be mistaken on which would be more costly. Very mistaken.
But that flow...
But that flow...
I don't think you understand what the government allows an airline to get away with under chapter 11. They will do whatever they can to reduce costs, and a contract for planes they don't have to deal with is easier than parking your own jets. Know how much it costs to pickle a jet in the desert? Go research, you'll be shocked
03-08-2020, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
How does that compare to the other legacies? Just to put those numbers into context?
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2019 was $45.768B, a 2.75% increase from 2018.
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2018 was $44.541B, a 4.5% increase from 2017.
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2017 was $42.622B, a 6.18% increase from 2016.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2019 was $47.007B, a 5.78% increase from 2018.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2018 was $44.438B, a 8.02% increase from 2017.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2017 was $41.138B, a 4.28% increase from 2016.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2019 was $43.259B, a 4.74% increase from 2018.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2018 was $41.303B, a 9.31% increase from 2017.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2017 was $37.784B, a 3.35% increase from 2016.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2019 was $12.371B, a 4.05% increase from 2018.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2018 was $11.89B, a 8.76% decline from 2017.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2017 was $13.032B, a 1.65% decline from 2016.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2019 was $17.792B, a 8.55% increase from 2018.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2018 was $16.39B, a 1.18% decline from 2017.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2017 was $16.585B, a 1.77% decline from 2016.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2019 was $29.663B, a 7.55% increase from 2018.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2018 was $27.58B, a 3.11% increase from 2017.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2017 was $26.747B, a 0.19% decline from 2016.
Sorry about the format I’m on my phone
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03-08-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
We get it, you think the flow is overrated. Not what we are talking about here, but your point is clear. Glad you aren't at a WO then. Moving on to relevant topics....
I don't think you understand what the government allows an airline to get away with under chapter 11. They will do whatever they can to reduce costs, and a contract for planes they don't have to deal with is easier than parking your own jets. Know how much it costs to pickle a jet in the desert? Go research, you'll be shocked
I don't think you understand what the government allows an airline to get away with under chapter 11. They will do whatever they can to reduce costs, and a contract for planes they don't have to deal with is easier than parking your own jets. Know how much it costs to pickle a jet in the desert? Go research, you'll be shocked
I agree if AA goes bankrupt they can cancel contracts. You assume that’s the best thing for you then ok. Seems reasonable.
03-08-2020, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2019 was $45.768B, a 2.75% increase from 2018.
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2018 was $44.541B, a 4.5% increase from 2017.
- American Airlines Group annual revenue for 2017 was $42.622B, a 6.18% increase from 2016.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2019 was $47.007B, a 5.78% increase from 2018.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2018 was $44.438B, a 8.02% increase from 2017.
- Delta Air Lines annual revenue for 2017 was $41.138B, a 4.28% increase from 2016.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2019 was $43.259B, a 4.74% increase from 2018.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2018 was $41.303B, a 9.31% increase from 2017.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual revenue for 2017 was $37.784B, a 3.35% increase from 2016.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2019 was $12.371B, a 4.05% increase from 2018.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2018 was $11.89B, a 8.76% decline from 2017.
- American Airlines Group annual gross profit for 2017 was $13.032B, a 1.65% decline from 2016.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2019 was $17.792B, a 8.55% increase from 2018.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2018 was $16.39B, a 1.18% decline from 2017.
- Delta Air Lines annual gross profit for 2017 was $16.585B, a 1.77% decline from 2016.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2019 was $29.663B, a 7.55% increase from 2018.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2018 was $27.58B, a 3.11% increase from 2017.
- United Airlines Holdings Inc annual gross profit for 2017 was $26.747B, a 0.19% decline from 2016.
Sorry about the format I’m on my phone
03-09-2020, 01:03 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
I agree if AA goes bankrupt they can cancel contracts. You assume that’s the best thing for you then ok. Seems reasonable.
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