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08-15-2007, 04:31 PM
#91
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Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by inside0ut
LOL thats what I was thinking. Im sure they know. Im just hoping the CP will be in so I can give all my stuff back and hopefully see my last pay.
Have fun at the new airline! I am sure you will find a lot more job satisfaction over there.
By the way...
Mesa has been pulling pilots out of recurrent ground schools to cover open flying. A friend in CLT just called and told me this! Another friend a couple of months ago was actually pulled out of the classroom, put on a ferry flight CR900 with a bunch of other pilots, and flown to ORD on an emergency mission to cover flying.
Guys, it is bad and not getting any better at Mesa. I hope we still have an airline in 6 months. I am now beginning to worry that there will be a "downgrade" due to junior attrition. The first sign will be if they cancel upgrade groundschools scheduled for Sept-Oct...
Yikes!
Last edited by ERJ Driver; 08-15-2007 at 04:37 PM.
08-16-2007, 09:08 PM
#92
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 103
Originally Posted by ERJ Driver
MAG Alpa has been using testimonials from their exit interviews to counter management claims that unsatisfied pilots leaving Mesa are "isolated incidents". I know it sounds like a pain, and that Alpa surely knows why you are leaving- but be honest and give them the whole story- this is your chance to "get it off your shoulders" and give it back to management. Make sure to finish it before your last day otherwise you will not be able to get on to the MAG Alpa website.
Have fun at the new airline! I am sure you will find a lot more job satisfaction over there.
By the way...
Mesa has been pulling pilots out of recurrent ground schools to cover open flying. A friend in CLT just called and told me this! Another friend a couple of months ago was actually pulled out of the classroom, put on a ferry flight CR900 with a bunch of other pilots, and flown to ORD on an emergency mission to cover flying.
Guys, it is bad and not getting any better at Mesa. I hope we still have an airline in 6 months. I am now beginning to worry that there will be a "downgrade" due to junior attrition. The first sign will be if they cancel upgrade groundschools scheduled for Sept-Oct...
Yikes!
Have fun at the new airline! I am sure you will find a lot more job satisfaction over there.
By the way...
Mesa has been pulling pilots out of recurrent ground schools to cover open flying. A friend in CLT just called and told me this! Another friend a couple of months ago was actually pulled out of the classroom, put on a ferry flight CR900 with a bunch of other pilots, and flown to ORD on an emergency mission to cover flying.
Guys, it is bad and not getting any better at Mesa. I hope we still have an airline in 6 months. I am now beginning to worry that there will be a "downgrade" due to junior attrition. The first sign will be if they cancel upgrade groundschools scheduled for Sept-Oct...
Yikes!
....And that was a -200 that went to ORD and was almost FULL of crews to cover UAL flying. Airways wasnt happy, we always said we wouldnt cannibalize our Airways crews for our UAL stuff...tsk,tsk will MAG be operational in the US in a year?
08-16-2007, 09:22 PM
#93
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 657
MAG is on a fast road (airway) to death. I do praise the pilots for walking/ choosing another airline. It's an easy decision for some while a difficult decision for others, those with senority.
One thing I have learned in my several careers, it's just not worth it (no matter where you stand in line - read senority #) to take abuse. Especially the kind that JO dishes out.
Many of the other regionals as well as nationals and majors are welcoming MESA pilots. I have atually heard through the grapevine that MESA is calling most of the regional airlines and telling them to stop stealing (hiring) their pilots. The response: Treat your pilots better and they may not leave.
If I were a MESA pilot wanting to leave to a REGIONAL, I would send my resume to SkyWest and Republic. These are the two companies that will benefit the most if MESA goes under. UAL flying will have to be covered and these two companies can find the means to do it. The other UAX carriers . . .I think would have a difficult time.
One thing I have learned in my several careers, it's just not worth it (no matter where you stand in line - read senority #) to take abuse. Especially the kind that JO dishes out.
Many of the other regionals as well as nationals and majors are welcoming MESA pilots. I have atually heard through the grapevine that MESA is calling most of the regional airlines and telling them to stop stealing (hiring) their pilots. The response: Treat your pilots better and they may not leave.
If I were a MESA pilot wanting to leave to a REGIONAL, I would send my resume to SkyWest and Republic. These are the two companies that will benefit the most if MESA goes under. UAL flying will have to be covered and these two companies can find the means to do it. The other UAX carriers . . .I think would have a difficult time.
08-16-2007, 09:30 PM
#94
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 657
Originally Posted by ERJ Driver
By the way...
Mesa has been pulling pilots out of recurrent ground schools to cover open flying.
Guys, it is bad and not getting any better at Mesa. I hope we still have an airline in 6 months. I am now beginning to worry that there will be a "downgrade" due to junior attrition.
Yikes!
I am truly sorry for the guys who have put in the time at MESA only to possibly lose what they have worked years to achieve. However, I can truly say that your services can and will be better compensated, and your QOL will be greatly improved with ANY kind of move. Believe me, others are ready and waiting to welcome you.
It just pains me to see ORD MESA pilots sit on the tarmac for days on end, knowing they are only going to get paid for :32 for a flight from ORD to ATW though they are sitting with doors closed for hours!!!
08-17-2007, 06:20 AM
#95
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,518
Originally Posted by Ellen
I'm sure the FAA is going to have a "COW" when they find out guys are not going through recurrent.
Folks may absolutely hate MAG management, but I doubt they'd knowingly allow pilots to miss RGS and dequal, costing them available pilots to fly the schedule.
08-17-2007, 08:42 AM
#96
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: A Big One
Posts: 283
Originally Posted by Window_Seat
What's your favorite part of working for Mesa? Sounds like life is pretty good. I'm thinking of coming over.
Why is it that only Mesa pilots have backpacks... what do you guys keep in there?
Why is it that only Mesa pilots have backpacks... what do you guys keep in there?
Go ahead...throw some more kindling under that bridge your burning....
Just my .02
Last edited by bustinmins; 08-17-2007 at 08:50 AM.
08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
#98
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,319
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Folks may absolutely hate MAG management, but I doubt they'd knowingly allow pilots to miss RGS and dequal, costing them available pilots to fly the schedule.
I can see you've never actually worked at mesa...or you wouldn't have said that.
08-17-2007, 10:18 AM
#99
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Position: Left
Posts: 393
A buddy of mine worked there about 11 years ago. They were running short on F/O's. So everyone in his upgrade class was pinked in their oral. All on the third question. Instead of asking them to put upgrade off for a couple of months. Nice way to treat employees isnt it. Didnt hurt him though hes at American now.
08-17-2007, 10:20 AM
#100
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Originally Posted by cl601pilot
A buddy of mine worked there about 11 years ago. They were running short on F/O's. So everyone in his upgrade class was pinked in their oral. All on the third question. Instead of asking them to put upgrade off for a couple of months. Nice way to treat employees isnt it. Didnt hurt him though hes at American now.
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