Mesa needs YOU!!
08-07-2007 | 01:16 PM
#41
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I bet that comment will make you quite popular among your fellow CFI's, as well as AIM gods, and perhaps facebookers. Sweet job busting my nuts about something in my profile. You serious? I hope not.
X-treme-
I am by no means ready for a job at the majors, but I would hope I am a cut above a CFI. I believe being a professional pilot makes all of us a cut above CFI's, not just me.
CFI2007-
I didn't want you to say we need mesa, but instead to keep your mouth shut since you quite honestly don't know if "we" need any airline, much less mesa.
Understand where I'm coming from?
I want these boards to be a resource to up and coming pilots (as I mentioned in my above post), and as I said "read away."
Just don't feel the need to chime in on each thread when you don't know what your talking about.
X-treme-
I am by no means ready for a job at the majors, but I would hope I am a cut above a CFI. I believe being a professional pilot makes all of us a cut above CFI's, not just me.
CFI2007-
I didn't want you to say we need mesa, but instead to keep your mouth shut since you quite honestly don't know if "we" need any airline, much less mesa.
Understand where I'm coming from?
I want these boards to be a resource to up and coming pilots (as I mentioned in my above post), and as I said "read away."
Just don't feel the need to chime in on each thread when you don't know what your talking about.
I didn't want you to say we need mesa, but instead to keep your mouth shut since you quite honestly don't know if "we" need any airline, much less mesa.
I agree...sorry for offending you, oh SkyGod......
08-07-2007 | 01:40 PM
#42
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From: I was acquired, Not Hired
[quote=newgrad411;210100]Since your boiling over with CFI intelligence, why don't you simply conduct a quick search on these forums. All of the info that I have heard is availible to you, right here.
All of you think that just b/c we work for Mesa, that we have an large part in planning, and carrying out each aspect of our airline. Surely you all can't be that ignorant. As dash drivers, the airline didn't really shop this opportunity to us, as we have zero CRJ flight hours.
Perhaps you could explain to me the maintenence program and oil change intervals on your '95-'97 delivery trucks
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Hmm, puzzling reply. I can only guess Mesa is your first airline gig. Truly congrats, however if you don't agree to JO's slave wages and slave work rules, then guess what, JO cant operate an airline. So contrary to your post, you do have a say in the planning phase of JO's attempt to undermine wages for intra-China flying.
No, I can't explain the mx program of UPS' trucks, but I know UPS pays their truck drivers well for their service. As a result, it's a sought after job to drive and fly for UPS. UPS makes money and still pays their employees good wages. Mesa makes some money on the back of the employees working for minimum wages. All the while JO smokes Cubans and eats at the finest restaurants. Looks like he could miss a few meals.
And yes, I'm boiling over with CFI intel. Thank you for the compliment. It was a hard rating to earn. My compliments to all the CFI's on this board. Even though I was a 747 Capt and a 757 Capt, I never have forgotten my general aviation roots.
FF
All of you think that just b/c we work for Mesa, that we have an large part in planning, and carrying out each aspect of our airline. Surely you all can't be that ignorant. As dash drivers, the airline didn't really shop this opportunity to us, as we have zero CRJ flight hours.
Perhaps you could explain to me the maintenence program and oil change intervals on your '95-'97 delivery trucks
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Hmm, puzzling reply. I can only guess Mesa is your first airline gig. Truly congrats, however if you don't agree to JO's slave wages and slave work rules, then guess what, JO cant operate an airline. So contrary to your post, you do have a say in the planning phase of JO's attempt to undermine wages for intra-China flying.
No, I can't explain the mx program of UPS' trucks, but I know UPS pays their truck drivers well for their service. As a result, it's a sought after job to drive and fly for UPS. UPS makes money and still pays their employees good wages. Mesa makes some money on the back of the employees working for minimum wages. All the while JO smokes Cubans and eats at the finest restaurants. Looks like he could miss a few meals.
And yes, I'm boiling over with CFI intel. Thank you for the compliment. It was a hard rating to earn. My compliments to all the CFI's on this board. Even though I was a 747 Capt and a 757 Capt, I never have forgotten my general aviation roots.
FF
08-07-2007 | 01:55 PM
#44
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From: I was acquired, Not Hired
No, CFII, thank you.
IMHO, one of the most important things I learned as a CFI was my comfort zone. When is it time to let the student go, and when was it time to say, stop, I have the aircraft. As a first officer, and even moreso as a Capt, you have to be able to recognize the degradation of safety and either speak up or act accordingly. As a CFI, you are able to establish these thresholds.
It's refreshing to go to my local FBO to get checked out in a Cessna or Piper and have a 300 hr CFI school me on how to fly the airplane. It's humbling, but refreshing.
FF
IMHO, one of the most important things I learned as a CFI was my comfort zone. When is it time to let the student go, and when was it time to say, stop, I have the aircraft. As a first officer, and even moreso as a Capt, you have to be able to recognize the degradation of safety and either speak up or act accordingly. As a CFI, you are able to establish these thresholds.
It's refreshing to go to my local FBO to get checked out in a Cessna or Piper and have a 300 hr CFI school me on how to fly the airplane. It's humbling, but refreshing.
FF
08-07-2007 | 01:59 PM
#45
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I know two that are (both airline pilots), so I guess the other one and I haven't crosses paths yet.
de727ups-
Bottom line, these rookies should keep quiet on threads that in no way involve them. If they don't work for a regional, or mesa namely, they have no business posting their mindless ideas on this thread. Read away, but don't waste our time, and flame people unless it involves you.
To follow suit: "We don't need cfi's here."
de727ups-
Bottom line, these rookies should keep quiet on threads that in no way involve them. If they don't work for a regional, or mesa namely, they have no business posting their mindless ideas on this thread. Read away, but don't waste our time, and flame people unless it involves you.
To follow suit: "We don't need cfi's here."
08-07-2007 | 05:57 PM
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"I would hope I am a cut above a CFI."
What's that supposed to mean?
I'm a UPS 757/767 Capt and a CFI since 1980. In many ways, the CFI part is more rewarding than then major job.
A professional pilot is one who is getting paid to perform a service. CFI's are in that catagory.
Now, if your point is that a CFI, who has never stepped foot in an RJ or worked at a 121 airline, should be overly negative towards those who work for Mesa, then I'd agree they don't have much background to stand on. But you need to watch how you put things.
What's that supposed to mean?
I'm a UPS 757/767 Capt and a CFI since 1980. In many ways, the CFI part is more rewarding than then major job.
A professional pilot is one who is getting paid to perform a service. CFI's are in that catagory.
Now, if your point is that a CFI, who has never stepped foot in an RJ or worked at a 121 airline, should be overly negative towards those who work for Mesa, then I'd agree they don't have much background to stand on. But you need to watch how you put things.
08-07-2007 | 06:01 PM
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From: DHC-8 F/O
Not sure I buy this one. CFI's are professional pilots and, even better, they are PICs. Honestly I think that civilian pilots who didn't fly some significant GA (CFI, night cargo, etc) are lacking a key foundation of their professional development. No amount of time in the dash (or an RJ) is going to make up for that.
And MAPD does not count for anything...you had adult supervision the entire time.
And MAPD does not count for anything...you had adult supervision the entire time.
I never attended San Juan, so you are both mistaken. I have been around roughly a year now. Not a seasoned vet, but I have learned a lot in my time here.
08-07-2007 | 06:04 PM
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Got to get the last word in eh bud? Don't worry, you already "won" with your comment about my profile.
08-08-2007 | 03:12 AM
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