Yeah that's it... I used that to list myself on NWA flights back in September/October.


Travelnet: When I go to the authorize buddies page and click an unused pass the "authorize" button is still gray and cannot be clicked... How do I authorize them now?

 

Delta’s red dresses don’t fit, Northwest union says
By Kelly Yamanouchi

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Friday, July 10, 2009

A Northwest Airlines union is protesting merger partner Delta Air Lines’ uniform policy that keeps flight attendants over size 18 from wearing Delta’s eye-catching signature red dress.

The red dress with a cinched waist is one of the work-wear options for Delta flight attendants, and it’s the type of uniform that makes flight attendants striding through airport concourses stand out.


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The Delta flight attendant and customer service agent uniforms, designed by Richard Tyler, were previewed during Fashion Week in New York in 2005 (above) and debuted on flights in 2006.

“Red is a color that attracts attention and someone, somewhere has made a decision that they don’t want to attract attention to someone in a dress that’s larger than a size 18,” said Patricia Reller, vice-chair of the grievance committee at the flight attendants union’s executive council at Northwest. “I’m very offended by it.”

Atlanta-based Delta closed its deal to acquire Northwest last year, and Northwest flight attendants, pilots and customer service employees started wearing Delta uniforms about three months ago.

The Delta flight attendant and customer service agent uniforms, designed by Richard Tyler, were previewed during Fashion Week in New York in 2005 and debuted on flights in 2006. The designer focus of the Delta uniforms recalls an airline industry of decades past when passengers dressed up for flights and in-flight meals were commonplace.

The Association of Flight Attendants at Northwest filed grievances over the lack of availability of the red dress for females over size 18 and over a requirement that flight attendants who wear orthopedic shoes must wear slacks and not a skirt or dress. Those that wear the orthopedic shoes must obtain a doctor’s note.

Delta denied the grievances over the red dress and orthopedic shoes with slacks. The disputes are headed toward mediation.

“There are fuller-figured women who would like to wear the red dress,” Reller said. Others want to wear the orthopedic shoes with a skirt for a better look, she said.

Delta said its uniforms fall under its company policy and that most flight attendants from Northwest like the uniforms. Flight attendants can wear other pieces including slacks, tops and blue dresses in larger sizes.

“It’s a variety to fit a very diverse group of preferences and sizes, and to continue presenting a uniform collection that is both stylish and very functional,” said Delta spokeswoman Gina Laughlin.

Although the policies on the sizes of the red dress and the orthopedic shoes with slacks are not new at Delta, the flight attendants from Delta are not represented by a union. The merger with Northwest has brought the flight attendant union from that carrier, along with its grievance process, in contact with policies at the mostly non-union Delta. The Association of Flight Attendants hopes to unionize flight attendants at the combined Delta as the work forces from the two airlines merge, while an anti-union coalition of flight attendants from Delta has also formed.

Richard Tyler, who called the Delta uniforms “chic and glamorous” when they debuted, has participated in some of the flight attendants’ fit sessions to try on uniform pieces.

“This is Richard Tyler’s collection — he designed it, he knows it better than anyone,” Laughlin said. “So his perspective on how the pieces were meant to be worn, perhaps how the pieces could be best altered to fit someone — that’s invaluable"

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I know this subject is floating around in the Major's thread, but man oh man......reading this made me think of some of our flight attendants trying to squeeze their way into these things. Some of these gal's could have been the new red widget on a mainline tail since they were so "noticeable".

I guess there are some positives of being furloughed. And not seeing the people that shouldn't wear these dresses is one of them!

 

I have never responded on here before but I'm pretty sure I will be the new Jason Speer if it is 100. For those of you who don't know who he is, he was the very last person seniority for a long time after the first furlough. My class date was June 20, 2005. Good luck to all.

 

Who really knows about the voluntary furloughs!!! Anyone, Please (that actually knows?!) I am now 50ish from the bottom and would rather be furloughed than be the last man on the totem pole! Can you legitimately be on unemployment if you take the voluntary!? If you take a voluntary furlough, is there a recall date guaranteed or is it just as if you have been chopped off at the bottom! If this is the case, who in their right mind would actually take the voluntary? (Considering Comair may never recall or at least just say on the off chance there is a merger you would be stapled below people in your own airline!) Any actual answers would be awesome! (THIS IS OF COURSE ASSUMING VOLUNTARY FURLOUGHS BECOME AVAILABLE!)

 

You won't be able to get definite answers until the company and the Union come up with something. There are terms to each of the packages and you won't know what they until they are offered.

I believe that when most airlines do voluntary furloughs, the recalls are still based upon seniority. The most senior people will get recall options first. Usually you can bypass a recall one time, but after that you have to come back or give up your seniority number. If you are only 50 from the bottom I think you will most likely be furloughed even if a good number of people above you take voluntary furloughs. The only way you would have a definite recall date is if you were to take an Extended COLA if they are offered. Being 50 from the bottom I doubt you would get one of those either.

Again, NOBODY actually knows yet. You will have to wait until the packages are offered to see what you are dealing with. Good luck!

 

I appreciate the feedback. I was just wondering what had happened in the past. My fear is that they will mitigate 50ish furloughs which would leave me on the very bottom, which is a position I am not willing to take! I'm sorry but after 3 years at a regional I am not willing to be a short call commuter!

 

I'm hoping 400 people will take whatever the company offers

 

I was at 2 years when I got furloughed (held a line in all but 1 month of that). I would not have minded being a captain on short call, but I was so glad I only had two weeks of short call as an FO before furlough.

 

short call reserve sucks. You will never be home unless you live at base, you will get used and abused, you will spend your days off commuting, you will not make any money setting ready reserve, and it will take 25 years to upgrade. Then you have to spend another 10 years on reserve as a captain.

 

The current contract says that voluntary furloughs do not get a bypass option BUT involuntary furloughs do.