Comair updates?
07-01-2010 | 05:39 AM
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Guys, a quick update.
Strong rumors of some more recalls after the holiday weekend. Again just rumors, but rather strong from what I'm seeing. My personal guess, there will be more.
Anyhow, IMPO as far as the training is concerned, 3 sim rides don't seem to be enough to get you back to par. Maybe a 4th should be scheduled without having to ask for it. The curriculum is packed for those 3 days, very little margin to redo any task more than once. Second day is a doozy. One maneuver is a clean stall (at FL310), recover from it and while so, a lost engine, driftdown procedure, as you're about to recover (at this time around FL210), second engine out. Double engine out procedure is a *****. Finally recovered at 5k, and even being in a sim, pucker factor is a bit high. Btw, that's just one procedure and both pilots have to do it. If you have to redo it, there goes your schedule. It is lengthy. Once you do a few coupled approches during the first day, the rest are hand flown (all of them). It is tiresome, draining, and easy to fall behind. We have our 3rd ride today and so far only have 3 items not completed in first 2 rides (S/E non-prec app, CFIT, and Windshear) and should be able to complete them today (hopefully) along the scheduled tasks. Some other crews are not as "caught up" as we are.
One piece of advice for everyone coming back, get your call outs down pat before showing up along with flows. Hope this helps.
Strong rumors of some more recalls after the holiday weekend. Again just rumors, but rather strong from what I'm seeing. My personal guess, there will be more.
Anyhow, IMPO as far as the training is concerned, 3 sim rides don't seem to be enough to get you back to par. Maybe a 4th should be scheduled without having to ask for it. The curriculum is packed for those 3 days, very little margin to redo any task more than once. Second day is a doozy. One maneuver is a clean stall (at FL310), recover from it and while so, a lost engine, driftdown procedure, as you're about to recover (at this time around FL210), second engine out. Double engine out procedure is a *****. Finally recovered at 5k, and even being in a sim, pucker factor is a bit high. Btw, that's just one procedure and both pilots have to do it. If you have to redo it, there goes your schedule. It is lengthy. Once you do a few coupled approches during the first day, the rest are hand flown (all of them). It is tiresome, draining, and easy to fall behind. We have our 3rd ride today and so far only have 3 items not completed in first 2 rides (S/E non-prec app, CFIT, and Windshear) and should be able to complete them today (hopefully) along the scheduled tasks. Some other crews are not as "caught up" as we are.
One piece of advice for everyone coming back, get your call outs down pat before showing up along with flows. Hope this helps.
07-01-2010 | 06:37 AM
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Kidding! For conversational purposes I guesss anyone can dream up rumors or thoughts. However, unless you love stress, or attempting to figure out the billion dollar operational decisions made up above, I see no point in trying to figure what might if anything can develop. In the end, we all just go to work until we get let go or something happens that affects us personally and leave voluntarily. Over the last 10 years here and threee other airlines as well, just my experience to control what I can and say "what r ya gonna do? Lets go get a beer after our day of flying."
It is entertaining sometimes to read what others foresee in our future based on their business and mathematical knowledge.
IMO, two things could happen, we are dissolved completely in long run, maintained stats quo. Or Something major as in joined in DAL with the latter highly unlikely. (I gues thats thre things).
In the meantime, cheers, and good luck to those affected hope no one suffers any economical distress over this.
Diver you back yet??
07-01-2010 | 06:48 AM
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07-01-2010 | 06:50 AM
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Well trailblazer source was on the money but not for ASA (for now). The only positive thing (for us) I see that we will board before the Mesaba and Compass pilots.
This is just a thought, Delta will still own the Emb jets from Compass do you think they will dangling those airplanes to a certain company that start contract talk in Nov. Just a thought.....
And No I do not want to see us take over another pilot group’s airplane.
This is just a thought, Delta will still own the Emb jets from Compass do you think they will dangling those airplanes to a certain company that start contract talk in Nov. Just a thought.....
And No I do not want to see us take over another pilot group’s airplane.
07-01-2010 | 08:07 AM
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Interesting news
Pinnacle Was Interested in Buying Comair
Delta may be interested in keeping another WO regional around simply for leverage during contract negotiations with other carriers, but this could be bad news if that is not the case. Simply put, to the MBA's at Delta, the obvious answer would be an eventual shutdown/liquidation of Comair, so hopefully management sees the value in having a WO for the flexibility and leverage issues. It is just worrying that they tried to sell them for basically a bargin price, and failed to do so. This indicates that they may not be thinking of the issues I mentioned above and instead are focusing on immediate cost reductions, which of course is not good news.
FYI not trying to spread doom and gloom a la trailblazer, just wanted to share the article and hopefully generate some discussion about the possibilities. Delta management is not stupid, but they are notorious for rapidly changing their strategy at the last minute. So here's hoping for a good announcement today, hopefully a confirmation that comair is sticking around, and, barring that, an announcement of a sale.
Delta may be interested in keeping another WO regional around simply for leverage during contract negotiations with other carriers, but this could be bad news if that is not the case. Simply put, to the MBA's at Delta, the obvious answer would be an eventual shutdown/liquidation of Comair, so hopefully management sees the value in having a WO for the flexibility and leverage issues. It is just worrying that they tried to sell them for basically a bargin price, and failed to do so. This indicates that they may not be thinking of the issues I mentioned above and instead are focusing on immediate cost reductions, which of course is not good news.
FYI not trying to spread doom and gloom a la trailblazer, just wanted to share the article and hopefully generate some discussion about the possibilities. Delta management is not stupid, but they are notorious for rapidly changing their strategy at the last minute. So here's hoping for a good announcement today, hopefully a confirmation that comair is sticking around, and, barring that, an announcement of a sale.
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