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Old 09-20-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by outofwork
So you strike or upset the King...update your resume because the powers to be will shut you down? As a Comair furlough...I was under the impression that Delta, DALPA, or a combination of both were upset with the "letters" not the strike for improvements in QOL, benefits etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but your post seems to be saying that those who strike under Delta Airlines will see their inevitable fate. Not a feeling I would like to have as an employee operating within a CBA.
Does it really matter? We can't even strike anymore.
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Old 09-20-2012 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by outofwork
So you strike or upset the King...update your resume because the powers to be will shut you down? As a Comair furlough...I was under the impression that Delta, DALPA, or a combination of both were upset with the "letters" not the strike for improvements in QOL, benefits etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but your post seems to be saying that those who strike under Delta Airlines will see their inevitable fate. Not a feeling I would like to have as an employee operating within a CBA.
If you strike you better have thought it out. The history is what it is. Two strikes and two bad end results. As mentioned in another post there was a lot more involved with Comair. If however you stike you had better make sure the company your striking against does not have other options. If they do expect them to use those options. To plan for anything else would be foolish.
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Old 09-20-2012 | 11:53 AM
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Good grief guys. Let it go.

109 more flights and another 1600 people in the aviation industry will be out of work and another regional airline will be no more.

Learn from the past, but let the arguments rest.
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Old 09-20-2012 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you strike you better have thought it out. The history is what it is. Two strikes and two bad end results.
Or three strikes and three bad end results - Don't forget the NW Machinists back in 2006. That one also ended with labor kicked to the street. IIRC, the director of Northwest MX at the time was John Bendoritis.

Coincidentally, Bendoritis wound up as the President of Comair just in time for the final round of reductions.
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Old 09-20-2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30
Good grief guys. Let it go.

109 more flights and another 1600 people in the aviation industry will be out of work and another regional airline will be no more.

Learn from the past, but let the arguments rest.

Well said.
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Old 09-20-2012 | 09:21 PM
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Anyone care to give me LOA 12-04?

I just got forwarded this letter with the hr.comair.com it says to refer to this LOA to know about your flight benefits. I don't have the LOA and the new website is not active for another week?

Thanks.
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Old 09-22-2012 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The Comair and ASA pilots were offered a deal that would have made them very comfortable. JC took it upon himself to decline the offer made by Delta management and Dalpa and it never saw the light of day. Dalpa took the steps to pitch the offer to Delta management after the purchase and it was accepted by management. JC at Comair killed the deal. \

It would have given each ASA and Comair pilot a seniority number at Delta running concurrently to Delta new hires when they checked out as a RJ Captain after a administrative interview to make sure they met all Delta basic requirements. (no criminal record, DUI's ect.). They would then have to fly 3 years as a RJ Captain. At that point they would then transfer to the mainline with the seniority number acquired 3 years earlier. JC turned it down as a insult since he would go behind existing FE's at Delta. The rest is as they say history!
Okay . . . so why didn't ASA take the deal? JC wasn't in their MEC. This all sounds too good to be true.
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Old 09-22-2012 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by natrack
Okay . . . so why didn't ASA take the deal? JC wasn't in their MEC. This all sounds too good to be true.
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Old 09-22-2012 | 12:49 PM
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Old 09-22-2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by natrack
Okay . . . so why didn't ASA take the deal? JC wasn't in their MEC. This all sounds too good to be true.
I'm pretty sure JC was in the ASA MEC at the time. When the ASA pilots refused to recall him, they were instantly and 100% complicit, and Delta sold ASA to Skywest as punishment.
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