Comair updates?
10-02-2008, 05:33 PM
#8651
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: EFFO (eternally furloughed First Officer)
Posts: 411
Originally Posted by andy171773
I heard Selvaggio himself was in the meeting today between Comair and ALPA, and as anyone who listened to the net conference knows...he took "full responsibility" for the lack of mitigation and was going to see to it personally.
I guess that didn't happen.
I guess that didn't happen.
10-02-2008, 05:43 PM
#8652
Furlough line holder
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
Posts: 1,845
Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
It's a repeat of the bankruptcy furlough. It was all a facade. They were JM'ing left and right, vacations were being moved and cancelled and constantly running out of reserves.
I really, really, really hope that every pilot that remains on property will avoid picking up EF and will bid the min line value. Last time, a few pilots had to have a few friendly reminders, ie. "notes" dropped in boxes. Although now that is extremely difficult if not impossible to police anymore.
Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it...
I really, really, really hope that every pilot that remains on property will avoid picking up EF and will bid the min line value. Last time, a few pilots had to have a few friendly reminders, ie. "notes" dropped in boxes. Although now that is extremely difficult if not impossible to police anymore.
Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it...
10-02-2008, 06:14 PM
#8654
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 110
I got this letter in the mail today, (10/2) explaining how uniform deductions will be taken from my paycheck(s). I am glad they are getting this out early so we can plan!!!
It also explains how pilots will have 60 days to pay any remaining balance from the flight store. Good thing they are giving ample amount of time to pay this back considering the time of furlough is during the holiday season and many of us have famlies to provide for. I guess Santa will be furloughed this year also, management is cutting back on reindeer, but they don't know it yet, they, along with all the eagerly awaiting children will receive a certified letter explaing this on Christmas Eve. Wait, that would be too much advance notice, the letters will be mailed Christmas Eve, and due to the holiday season they should receive their letters from Santa approximately 3 days after Christmas. It will say something like "you little sh*ts have not been bad this year so stop crying, you need to cheer up, your sadness is your own fault."
I don't like this anymore. I am ready to quit and I haven't even been here a year. That's too bad.
What a bunch of D*cks.
It also explains how pilots will have 60 days to pay any remaining balance from the flight store. Good thing they are giving ample amount of time to pay this back considering the time of furlough is during the holiday season and many of us have famlies to provide for. I guess Santa will be furloughed this year also, management is cutting back on reindeer, but they don't know it yet, they, along with all the eagerly awaiting children will receive a certified letter explaing this on Christmas Eve. Wait, that would be too much advance notice, the letters will be mailed Christmas Eve, and due to the holiday season they should receive their letters from Santa approximately 3 days after Christmas. It will say something like "you little sh*ts have not been bad this year so stop crying, you need to cheer up, your sadness is your own fault."
I don't like this anymore. I am ready to quit and I haven't even been here a year. That's too bad.
What a bunch of D*cks.
10-02-2008, 06:16 PM
#8655
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 54
im am one to be laid off....all of you people need to stop blaming comair stand up for yourself, move on, or suck it up and wait...but you all sound like a bunch of crying sorry losers who think the world owes you something..not a true pilot who can make a decisions..either wait for your time or move on... but QUITE blaming and saying why me....
10-02-2008, 06:22 PM
#8656
Airport Hobo
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 844
Originally Posted by TAILSKID
im am one to be laid off....all of you people need to stop blaming comair stand up for yourself, move on, or suck it up and wait...but you all sound like a bunch of crying sorry losers who think the world owes you something..not a true pilot who can make a decisions..either wait for your time or move on... but QUITE blaming and saying why me....
Question for people that actually work at Comair. I'm on A5 this month, obviously no schedule yet for next month (beside getting furloughed) but, they have just assigned me to a trip that extends into November. Can they do this even though we haven't even had a chance to bid for days off? Sorry, contract is not in my hands and somehow I doubt it would be this specific. Thoughts?
Last edited by flyandive; 10-02-2008 at 06:32 PM.
10-02-2008, 06:27 PM
#8657
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Popsicle Logic
Posts: 633
Originally Posted by down2mins
Anyone else have "Remove VA" on their schedule just waiting to be acknowledged? 
10-02-2008, 06:45 PM
#8658
pants on the ground
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: back seat
Posts: 1,358
i got an idea..so i can still eat some FOOD and make it to my next job whenever that is, start my own website...www.willflyfor........sh!+ that looks kinda familar.
10-02-2008, 08:35 PM
#8659
Furlough line holder
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
Posts: 1,845
Just so everyone has it
Fellow Comair Pilots,
It is with utter disgust at Comair Management that I write to you today. After five hours of meetings today the company is not interested in any real Furlough Mitigation other than flex line value. Many of your ALPA representatives had high hopes for today's meeting but the company wanted to waste time just as they have taken their time in rectifying your pay. Tonight a VARS message will be coming out which will detail this meeting in greater detail.
In regards to the Paycheck error that Comair Management has caused the company is attempting to rectify the situation in the following incorrect way.
Anyone who had greater than $400.00 removed from their check will receive 2/3 back in a live check if your furlough date is 11/05. If your furlough Date is 10/05 no money will be refunded. The reaming crew outfitters balances will be removed from the next two checks.
At 5:00 pm today all checks that the company re-ran have been delivered to the CVG Chief Pilots Office. You may pick up your check their or have it mailed to your address of record. For those of you who are JFK based ask CVG to send it to JFK if you wish.
In no way does your ALPA representation believe that the company has any rights to any of these funds. We will continue to explore all legal means and other remedies in which we can for you to receive not only your full pay but in addition any damages which may have occurred due to this GROSS NEGLIGENCE by the company.
During this process I need each and everyone of you to keep records of any and all damages caused by Comair's mispayment to all Furloughees 10/5 & 11/05 and keep this information until requested. In addition if you feel you have been stripped of pay you deserve please take the steps to contact the Kentucky Labor Cabinet.
Together we will fight this mistreatment until all pilots receive their full pay!
In Solidarity,
Michael Perrizo
Comair MEC Membership and Furlough Chair
Fellow Comair Pilots,
It is with utter disgust at Comair Management that I write to you today. After five hours of meetings today the company is not interested in any real Furlough Mitigation other than flex line value. Many of your ALPA representatives had high hopes for today's meeting but the company wanted to waste time just as they have taken their time in rectifying your pay. Tonight a VARS message will be coming out which will detail this meeting in greater detail.
In regards to the Paycheck error that Comair Management has caused the company is attempting to rectify the situation in the following incorrect way.
Anyone who had greater than $400.00 removed from their check will receive 2/3 back in a live check if your furlough date is 11/05. If your furlough Date is 10/05 no money will be refunded. The reaming crew outfitters balances will be removed from the next two checks.
At 5:00 pm today all checks that the company re-ran have been delivered to the CVG Chief Pilots Office. You may pick up your check their or have it mailed to your address of record. For those of you who are JFK based ask CVG to send it to JFK if you wish.
In no way does your ALPA representation believe that the company has any rights to any of these funds. We will continue to explore all legal means and other remedies in which we can for you to receive not only your full pay but in addition any damages which may have occurred due to this GROSS NEGLIGENCE by the company.
During this process I need each and everyone of you to keep records of any and all damages caused by Comair's mispayment to all Furloughees 10/5 & 11/05 and keep this information until requested. In addition if you feel you have been stripped of pay you deserve please take the steps to contact the Kentucky Labor Cabinet.
Together we will fight this mistreatment until all pilots receive their full pay!
In Solidarity,
Michael Perrizo
Comair MEC Membership and Furlough Chair
10-02-2008, 08:59 PM
#8660
Furlough line holder
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
Posts: 1,845
I also urge all of those involved in Comair's "paygate" scandal to send in that complaint form to the KY board of labor (posted a few pages back).
The more they get, the higher up the priority chain it goes..which equals more pressure on Comair to get their heads out of their butts.
Kentucky Labor Cabinet
right side of the page..click on
Employee Complaint Form (ES-8)
I'm just as disgusted as all of you, and feeling very indifferent, cause i'm not sure I want to continue working here...but this'll at least cover another base
The more they get, the higher up the priority chain it goes..which equals more pressure on Comair to get their heads out of their butts.
Kentucky Labor Cabinet
right side of the page..click on
Employee Complaint Form (ES-8)
I'm just as disgusted as all of you, and feeling very indifferent, cause i'm not sure I want to continue working here...but this'll at least cover another base
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