Well, looks like PDT will join their brownstreak brothers after all. They will just won't get our "promised" fleet while in BK, they will get our current planes.

Woohoo!!!

 

I highly doubt that.

 

I don't. They guaranteed Envoy and PSA airplanes in their respective agreements, but not PDT. I wonder why?

 

Exactly. This LOA language makes it sound like AAG doesn't have a plan for Piedmont and that possibly in the distant future we'll get jets. I think this is just masking their real intension to transfer Envoy aircraft. They know our TA has less of a chance of passing if we are voting on blatant aircraft theft and career destruction at Envoy. This is just my opinion but I heard a bunch of rumors of training meetings. We already have a 145 training program ready to go from the old US Air Jets 4Jobs program. I'm telling you it's all ready to go, as soon as the TA passes you'll see them start to execute this plan.

 

Perhaps in the short term. To me, Appendix D reads that, as long as the FA's and MX can reach agreements, that 20 175s are coming with the possibility of 20 more. I believe that's the IF in all this with the 175s. I believe those groups would also reach agreements, as there aren't other alternatives for them. If they can negotiate some kind of flow or preferential hiring program for them at mainline also, that would be excellent.

 

I don't see this happening at all. It is easier just to phase it out at envoy. The cost of adding an additional aircraft type is a lot more than you think... just wishful thinking by the poster.

If you vote yes to this slum TA a couple things will happen:
Pros:
1. You WILL get 40 E175s. I guarantee it.
2. You will actually keep the dash for a bit until another turboprop enters the market. It will more than likely be a smaller fleet though. You are the only turboprop carrier for american. Cost efficency for small markets is the key to success and Parker realizes this.

Cons:
1. You will continue to degredate the industry. Confirming the truth that pilots will step all over each other to get "ahead" when the truth is networking and keeping touch with your co-workers is the key to a major.
2. You will get significant negative feedback from the XJT, envoy, and republic groups. Remember... we WiLL be your co-workers in the future. We don't want to make it a long trip...
3. Your flow can be: metered, loopholed,you name it. Post the language of this and I can find a way around it.

I will personally buy a beers for any PDT crew I come across if you vote no.

 

Hold the line Piedmont.

 

We are in this position because of ALPA National's failures. They could've embraced the regionals, especially the vulnerable ones like Piedmont that had no future fleet plan, offered career support finding other positions. Coordinate merger agreements between wholly owned carriers. Mounted a Stop the Whipsaw type campaign. But instead they just sat back and let this 12/4 regional internship stuff become a trend.

 

I have seen the LOA 19 preamble and summary on the lounge, but is the PDT MEC giving any idea when the actual document will be made public? I'm assuming you guys will be voting on actual language and not a bullet point summary.

 

We were emailed the language last night, and no I'm not going to post it or email to you. I'm sure it will make it's way onto EL, and STW soon enough.