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08-28-2014, 07:22 AM
#5291
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Not to mention if we get the 40 E-jets, we grow. For each additional 125 pilots added the flow goes up by 1 per month. At minimum, upgrade time decreases by half or more. Add in retirements and folks riding out the dash and 2 to 3 year upgrade would be commonplace and it would likely be lower than that. Flow also not likely to be minimum levels in a few years. Yeah I know, economy, world events, blah blah. I could also be hit by a meteor today, but it's a beautiful day and I'm going outside.
08-28-2014, 08:17 AM
#5292
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
Originally Posted by inline five
If I read the flow through language correctly, AA only has to make 3 offers (up to 350 pilots) a month. An offer is just that, an offer, if the pilot turns it down, it still counts as an offer. Thus with the proclaimed 100+ lifers on property, PDT would see zero go to the flow for almost 3 years.
That being said, quick calculations show the most senior F/O on property wouldn't see indoc at AAG for almost 5 years! Pilot #350 would take 9.5 years to flow. That is insane. The "flow" isn't really worth much IMO.
That being said, quick calculations show the most senior F/O on property wouldn't see indoc at AAG for almost 5 years! Pilot #350 would take 9.5 years to flow. That is insane. The "flow" isn't really worth much IMO.
08-28-2014, 08:57 AM
#5295
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Originally Posted by Nevets
If you or anyone didn't have to depend on PDT for a paycheck, how would you vote? This is precisely why everyone should have a viable plan B. It's only prudent. Good luck to everyone.
08-28-2014, 09:04 AM
#5296
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by billyho
Yeah, like marry a girl that comes from a rich family. That's works the best.
That may work as well. But I'm talking about having a back up plan in case your company doesn't exist tomorrow. It's the smart thing to do, don't you think?
08-28-2014, 09:14 AM
#5297
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by Nevets
That may work as well. But I'm talking about having a back up plan in case your company doesn't exist tomorrow. It's the smart thing to do, don't you think?
I know there are plenty of guys that have side businesses, or prior careers etc but honestly how viable is it for the majority to have a second CAREER on hold ready to go incase one doesn't work out?
08-28-2014, 09:34 AM
#5298
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Originally Posted by pagey
I think what he meant was "easier said than done."
I know there are plenty of guys that have side businesses, or prior careers etc but honestly how viable is it for the majority to have a second CAREER on hold ready to go incase one doesn't work out?
I know there are plenty of guys that have side businesses, or prior careers etc but honestly how viable is it for the majority to have a second CAREER on hold ready to go incase one doesn't work out?
08-28-2014, 12:27 PM
#5299
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: 206
Posts: 573
What are Piedmont's E175 captain rates? If a 20 year captain would bid over from the dash(if possible), would he go on a 20 or 12 year rate?
What's the deal with the retirement grievance for senior guys? What type of retirement do they have?
What's the deal with the retirement grievance for senior guys? What type of retirement do they have?
08-28-2014, 12:32 PM
#5300
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 200
Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Not to mention if we get the 40 E-jets, we grow. For each additional 125 pilots added the flow goes up by 1 per month. At minimum, upgrade time decreases by half or more. Add in retirements and folks riding out the dash and 2 to 3 year upgrade would be commonplace and it would likely be lower than that. Flow also not likely to be minimum levels in a few years. Yeah I know, economy, world events, blah blah. I could also be hit by a meteor today, but it's a beautiful day and I'm going outside.
You say no, and they will merge you guys with one of the other wholly owned and your chance of flowing will be greater and faster. You say yes, you will still be merged with one of the wholly owned PLUS harming the whole regional industry for the next 10++ years
Look at the big picture, don't let them fool you with a few shiny jets
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