here you go

 

As tempting as it is Ladies and Gentlemen of Piedmont, DO NOT THINK for one second THAT IF YOU VOTE THIS DOWN YOU WILL BE OUT OF A JOB. Let me say that one more time, VOTING NO WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR JOB STATUS!!!! Envoy voted no and they're still here...and will continue to be here as AAG WILL approach them again as they have done now TWICE since they voted no. Management at RAH is engaging their pilots once again and here at ExpressJet, we're STILL HERE...actively negotiating with management.

Pilots of Piedmont...you are not replaceable overnight, and you are NOT disgardable trash in the eyes of AAG, you are PROFESSIONAL PILOTS who entered this industry to have a CAREER, not a menial job to pass the time with. If you vote no, AAG WILL come back with a better offer, it might not be that much better, but better nonetheless, THINK before you vote, LOOK AROUND at your peers and realize we are all still here, voting YES equals selling out for a SUB PAR deal, voting NO tells them that it needs to improve. As everyone has said...the eyes of the industry are focused on you!!!

Vote as you please, but understand that voting no does not in any way mean you are slitting your own throat.

 

a lot of if's, when's.
Guarantee everything will be as written except the e175's.
you will get jets, depending on how low ball your pay rates will be you most likely will get the parked e-140's from envoy, they qualify as jets and everywhere in the bullets points mentioning jets and not e175 will come true except the e175's.

plan accordingly, you know parker better, we have just found out about him and he has found out about us.

 

Kinda of funny how Envoy is worried about us. They weren't worried when they wanting every EMB 175 on THEIR property. What? Were you guys gonna tell Parker to send 20 over to Piedmont from the kindness of your heart?

 

We dont care about the airplanes, we care about the paycheck.

When you realize that, doesn't matter if you fly a 172 or a 747, what's matter is your QOL and pay.

Because at the end of the day, it's just a work. Why give away something like HEALTH INSURANCE!!! I didn't know you guys just pay around 15%, that's super cheap.

Remember...health insurance goes up every year and you guys will pay that increase + 20% more! That's just crazy...

But hey, do whatever you guys want . Like someone said, the whole industry is watching. The PSA guys are marked, even if nobody says nothing, everyone talks behind their backs. They will let them ride the JS, they will be polite to them, but people know what they did.

I went to the United FFD, and did not saw any PSA or MESA guy there, at least the day I was there. Coincidence?? I don't know.

All I say is that we at Envoy would help PDT if there's a merger if you guys hold the line. What 350 guys would do to our seniority list? Not that much.

Now, if you bring concessions to us, after we stand 3 times saying NO, then it will be a long battle. That's what Parker want, that's what he's planning. We are just the practice for his biggest fight...AA/USAir integration.

Don't fall for someone making $57,000 a day.

Again, it's your decision. Good luck

 

If it wasn't the the planes why did you demand more be placed at Envoy? It's about the planes also. Believe me we aren't
running around excited about this. But we don't have any resources and it ain't like anyone wants to start over at another regional.
It sucks and I actually blame ALPA national. That's where our anger should be! There suppose to be responsible for unity. Right?

 

If we really wanted all the airplanes we would have voted that garbage in. It's management's job to determine what aircraft your airline operates, not the pilots'. Although, Parker and Co. seem to have convinced many out there otherwise

Pilots will continue to be their own worst enemies until we stop justifying and ratifying subpar contracts.

 

Looking at the contract I have 2 big problems. 1 selling the FO Coming in the following years short by capping pay at 4 years. I know the cap in reality does not matter but how much you are getting paid and I know it is between 36-38 at 4 years and that is low. 2. 10 year contracts don't make sense why so long. Lots of things can change including the economics of aviation. I know people always stress the bad but what if things become good should we not deserve more compensation for helping the company grow a little sooner. I do want to stress though that in the end it is The PDT choice in what they want to do. Good luck guys.

 

DAMN straight! Excellent points!

I got nothing to add to this.

 

[QUOTE=JohnLocke;1715573]Yawn! Commutair has the same FO pay scale as you in fact higher first year pay, and yes you are

Oh good point, make sure you go to commutair because they have a higher first year pay rate, anything else better than our contract? Nope, rates on apc are from the old contract our captain rates are about 4-5 dollars higher than that I will post them if you like, plus we have a good contract for all the little things that add up.
If everyone is moving on to the majors anyway than why is everyone so worried about being capped at 95 per hour? That's not even high as our current 25 year pay rate goes and now you're there at 12 and you should be at a major long before that. Are people really crying about that because they want to be at a regional longer than 12 years?? Are you crazy? Even our senior pilots are for this deal and getting capped, our 25 year pay rate right now isn't that high now you're there at 12 but hopefully gone long before that, screw the regionals get your time and get out unless you have multiple duis you can do it. I'm not for this deal cause I don't like the flow, but the pay caps don't bother me that much even if the world crashes I can live on 95 per hour with our contract till I can move on. Don't forget we fly props now not jets this is a pay raise, if we flew jets right now this would be a weak deal but why turn down a pay raise