Good luck to those unfortunate enough to fly the 190's....I hope you realize how much of a sh!tstorm you are in for...and when you do negotiate the 100 seat rates, anything less than what jetBlue gets paid will be viewed as failure. Every new contract negotiation should RAISE the bar, not come somewhere in the middle.

 

scared to say who you work for huh? the seniority level's all over the place, top to bottom but what does that matter? you're probably a 172 instructor praying every night before bed that RAH calls you in the morning, right?

 

You are stepping in to do work that a fellow pilot attempted to strike for. You are indeed a scab. You may not have to cross a picket line to go to work, but you are in effect taking work from mainline pilots.

You are indeed lowering the bar for the industry as a whole. What happens next? Will the 737 and A319/320 become regional jets? I hope not, because those of you blind to the world at Republic will most likely fly them with pleasure and use the guise that your "only doing your job" to justify taking a sub par wage to fly what should be a mainline jet.

When does this stop? When the majors are dead, and $96,000 a year is the apex of the pay scale? I as a pilot watching this industry die a very slow death - hope to God not.

End result for me - Gojet will be riding in the jump seat ahead of RAH - you lower the bar - and I'll gladly play limbo.

 

No I'm not a SCAB. Maybe you should read some of my prior posts on this topic. Midwest Pilots didn't strike. I wish they would. And I'm not "stepping in to do work". I was already a pilot at this company when they decided to enter this agreement with Midwest. If I don't do my job, I will be "stepping into the unemployment line".

 

Wow you guys are really proving that age-old saying, "Age is a state of mind, not a number" because you all are acting like 15 year olds....bickering, arguing, calling RAH scabs. What the same hell did RAH pilots do? Show up for work so they can pay their mortgage and feed their families? I mean, $hit......we weren't the ones that gave up the scope in the first place. So, for those that did give it up way back when, the can of worms has officially been opened.

Remember, be careful what you ask for, even if you think you might never get it......'cause you might just. I bet mainline crew across the board that gave up scope for pension/pay way back when are shooting themselves in the foot/feet tonite.

This whole mess is just a big-o-pile of $hit left over from higher up the tree, not little ol regional RAH.

 

Wow that is pretty low. Why does the seniority matter?? It matters because a while ago you guys were saying the same thing about the 170 flying as you are saying now. What can we do? We're not happy about this, no one wants to fly Midwest flying, now you're saying all seniority levels are flying Midwest. If you are an indication of the type of pilots RAH has then we are all in trouble. Now I know for sure that at least one RAH pilot is excited about this, that you will be flying mainline airplanes at a regional. We will see where you guys stand when the bids come out for mainline jet flying. You guys can stand up to management through both unions to stop this, and you're making the same arguments as a scab would make.

 

it really irritates me when mainline pilots accuse me of taking their jobs. if you look at it from my point of view they took OURS! if they'd have thrown scope on the table that said let the regionals fly as many turbo props as they want but we get the jets we wouldn't be here. i was unhappy about flying the 170 but now i see the direction of this industry and there's not a darn thing we can do about because our fate was sealed long before i even touched an airplane....thank those guys. ask them what they got for giving up scope.

thanks for the entertainment for the night from me and my 20 buddies at recurrent ground school. you're upset about the 190? HAHAHA just wait.....

 

You really have no idea what you're talking about. The most junior CA at Republic is an Aug. 06 hire. Ref. the airlinepilotcentral page. I know this person you're talking about and he doesn't even have a chance to fly the 190 because he's on a different certificate. And he is NOT excited about this! There will be no bids coming out for this "mainline jet flying". There have been displacements due to us loosing our CRJ program. We will not have a 190 base, or 190 only lines. We use PBS. Like I said before. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

In some small way, I am almost glad to be furloughed right now for the single reason that happenings like these just make it harder to think about my furture as an airline pilot. And a lot of people get on here and talk a really big game, I am sure that I may even be guilty of that. But when all is said and done, I don't ever really see any action. RAH guys are flying Midwest routes in the 170's and soon to be 190's. Furloughed Midwest guys call RAH a crappy operation guilty of putting them out of work, and then they start ground school at GoJet the very next day. Same thing with mainline United guys. "It was our flying anyway." The arguments in defense of these actions are as strong as the arguments used to slam the other guy.

A regional carrier flying a mainline size aircraft is a bad thing. Period. Do I blame all the guys at RAH? No, they didn't chose it. Will they fly it? Yes, they would not give up their job in this economy any more so than anybody else would at this point. In order to stop this madness, the effort needs to be directed to the source. Those guys that sit in a nice big comfy office for a living are the ones that are helping this industry sink further into the hole that it has fallen into, not the guys that show up to work everyday. Principles are a great thing to have and I admire them in anybody. I do not think RAH guys should quit anymore than I would have quit TSA on my principles. However, my principles kept me from running across the hall looking for a job. Those are the principles I admire.

Folks, it is time to send a message to the powers that be that the time for change is now. And to you RAH guys, negotiate well, because this CBA will set the tone for the rest of the industry when it comes to negotiations for the rest of us out there. Best of luck to everyone and all of us.

 

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