RAH 190's Base and Pay Memo
06-03-2009, 05:20 AM
#71
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
You don't get it. The pilots are being replaced and their mainline airplanes, who cares if a company that shouldn't be surviving, is? I'm sure the Midwest pilots would feel some more dignity if the company shuts down rather than replace them and their airplanes with RAH.
Originally Posted by AirWillie
So are you saying if you had a choice you wouldn't be accepting a job at RAH because they fly for Midwest and that they replace furloughed midwest guys and fly mainline airplanes as well while their at it? But since it looks like a case of the chicken before the egg, your hands are tied. The fact of the matter is you guys will be even bidding for it, we'll see how junior the flying goes. Now your management even fixed the pay issue for you guys by making it below 99 seats, HOW CONVENIENT FOR YOU!!! 66 717s VS 95 seat E190s. Somebody said something about throwing up.....
your first quote sounds awfully similar to TSA/GJ......
06-03-2009, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I don't get the point of your question. He's saying he's hoping we wouldn't accept the flying as a pilot group. I'm saying we don't have the option to accept or deny any of this since as it sits it does not violate any contracts. Make any sense? If they show up we can't simply say "no thanks". We don't have a choice.
06-03-2009, 01:01 PM
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94 seats? ahaha what a joke. Just joining in on this one. Who was actually thinking that they might negotiate ANYTHING close to what Jet Blue pays? Somebody needs a drug test.
Hey RAH, here's to the 500th, the 600th and the 700th? Take a look at the Mesa furlough thread and see the future.
Hey RAH, here's to the 500th, the 600th and the 700th? Take a look at the Mesa furlough thread and see the future.
06-03-2009, 01:34 PM
#74
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Originally Posted by matlok
You guys *do* have the choice of NOT BIDDING the vacancies. If those planes fly at least have them flown by 100% displaced pilots, no volunteers.
06-03-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
what does that change? just help you sleep at night? I have no idea if people will bid them or not but someone would have to be an idiot if he could bid to live in base and not do it. The fight is in the contract. It's the only thing that counts now that the bull is out of the barn.
06-03-2009, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
You keep saying that RAH saved 3/4 of Midwest pilot jobs. Do you realize that Midwest used to have 400ish pilots, & are now down to around 100 pilots? No more MD80s & only 8 B717s now.
So once again RAH did not save 3/4 of Midwest pilot jobs. The E170s & the $$$ RAH management provided helped to ELIMINATE 3/4 of the Midwest pilots jobs & only left about 1/4 of the Midwest pilots employed.
So once again RAH did not save 3/4 of Midwest pilot jobs. The E170s & the $$$ RAH management provided helped to ELIMINATE 3/4 of the Midwest pilots jobs & only left about 1/4 of the Midwest pilots employed.
06-03-2009, 03:58 PM
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Guys, I find this as disgraceful as anyone else but they legally can not just collectively SAY NO and not fly the airplanes, they negotiated these low rates, the time to crucify them was when they negotiated these rates, not now
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