Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED

As far as I know what happened was Jet Blue threatened union, we've got one of those. What we don't have is unity. There are too many people here that 5 years ago when they started they were #400, now they have 1600 below them, work for a company that is in the best position to grow and have a relatively good quality of life for an airline pilot. These folks are not going to jeopardize their livelihood for 5 or 10 grand a year and certainly not for better FO wages. So they are going to vote for a contract that makes sense to them. The 400 above them are flat out lifers, so you can count them out.

You've got the bottom 1000 that are Either young bucks or middle aged. The middle aged want things better but only because they might stay. The youngsters are ready to go to bloody war not knowing which end of the sword is sharp.

Can anyone see the problem here? Unity, 3 certificates that don't communicate, a company that doesn't follow the contract we do have and a management who's answer to everything is "if you don't like it quit" because they know someone will take your seat and they even get to pay them less.

You misread me as being defeatist and apologetic. I am in fact neither, I am however a realist. What world is everyone else living in that a regional airline (who has to abide by the railway labor act) is going to get a pay rate better than a stand alone carrier.

First off the pilots at RAH are neither unified enough to get it or stupid enough to vote it in. The second we would get that negotiated someone be it Mesa/GoJet or you name a company will underbid that flying the minute the ink dries on the pilot contract.

So what have we done, ask the pilots of Comair ,Express jet and Midwest how great they sleep at night knowing they stood their ground for a industry leading contract. They'd sleep a lot better knowing their jobs were secure or they didn't have to take concessions to keep them.

Everytime I log on here I see some fool screaming "Jet Blue or better". I just felt it was time someone spoke with some honesty and reality around here. Flip floppers and flamers keep in mind it wasn't 2 weeks/months ago that everyone said Jet Blue sucked too.

Before you hoot and holler, I am not saying for one minute that this is anyone's problem but ours. The problem is once again, all anyone wants to do about it point fingers and cry foul instead of offering anything substantial to rectify the problem.

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

You don't know what a scab is and considering how gojet guys are at UPS etc. I think you're full of it.

Originally Posted by B1900YX

Date: June 1, 2009
To: All RAH Flight Crews
From:
Re: New MKE EMB 190 Base

Republic Airways announces a new EMB 190 crew base will open August 1, 2009 in MKE. It is anticipated that this base will fly Midwest trips only and initially will be 1 and 2 day trips.

The effective date of this bid is September 1, 2009 but we expect to open MKE August 1, 2009 when our first EMB 190 goes into service. We anticipate beginning training for the positions in July.

Please keep in mind that the EMB 190 aircraft may require initial, bridge or other training as required. The initial aircraft will be delivered in a 94 seat configuration and therefore Captains will be paid based on the Captain 79-99 seat rate.

Please do not bid this position if you are unable or unwilling to accept an award!

MKE EMB 190 Republic Airline

The company is posting 10 Captain and 10 First Officer EMB 190 positions. Bids will be accepted until 1700 hours on the closing date. If interested, please update your vacancy bid in Flica. To correctly bid and to be considered for this position, please bid for MKE 190 CA or FO in Flica under Vacancy.


Vacancies will be awarded in order of seniority using standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Vacancies caused by filling this primary award will be awarded using the standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Not all vacancies created by this bid award may be filled.

Please use Flica to bid. Pilot Bid closes 1700 hours on June 8, 2009.




Date: 6/1/2009

Originally Posted by MD80

Dude, here's the deal.

Republic Teamsters has control over your CEO because he can only fly E190 if Midwest stays alive. Only Republic or Midwest pilots can fly the E190.

The Midwest pilots will not agree to anything less then the JetBlue rates. If you negotiate a lower rate you will become a SCAB guaranteed and

don't even think about applying to another carrier!

Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED

Dude, can I call you dude? Here is the deal. Those 394 pilots have the right to fly those airplane, they also have the right to strike. If they do and we fly the routes I'll agree with the scab theory until then... well I keep getting "moderated" so I guess I'd say save the name calling. Let us go to the plate with a contract then start your bravo sierra.

PS: If they do elect to fly the airplanes I assume I can count on you as a fellow pilot to make a stand for my rights that my contract will not be violated by someone else flying my airplane, right?

Originally Posted by MD80

But if Republic pilots negotiate lower wages to gain flying and/or more upgrades, then I have to consider you SCABs.

Originally Posted by BoilerUP

Are Allegiant pilots SCABs?

Are GoJet pilots SCABs?

Are Virgin America pilots SCABs?

Were JetBlue pilots SCABs before this most recent payraise?

Please, tell us all what your standard of SCAB is if something other than a picket-crosser.