Originally Posted by embraer

Actually, the only location the ATRs are essential is in the Carribbean where some of the runways can't support the jets. Other than that all routes out of DFW and other bases are easily covered by the ERJs.
Just a few examples of traditional prop routes now flown by jets out of DFW: ACT, TYR, and ABI.

It is has already been decided that the ATRs and ERJ 140/135s will be parked. ATR guys will be displaced over to the jets...but under the current proposed TA the pay will continue being at ATR rates.

More importantly, the 145s and CRJs that do remain will be owned by AA who can transfer them (without us) to any company they want. Don't be surprised to see the words, "operated by....." on our aircraft in the near future....

Originally Posted by ERJF15

Wow! Please tell us, by now you know how to read a chart? That's basic airline pilot 101. Ask the folks on the lounge.

Originally Posted by What

The Form 10 says that AMR can start putting 12 ATR a year up for bid, why does everyone think that they are gone automatically. For the ATR to be gone someone else has to come up with a certificate that the ATR is the largest airplane, develop a program, qualify Check airman, sim instructors and finally train the crews. AA SCOPE states that the only thing over 50 seats besides the Eagle CRJ (must be operated by Eagle pilots) can be 39 ATR. So no Colgan Q400. I could be wrong but this is my understanding, we need people to stop being so scarred, this is what AMR wants so we get locked in to a Industry standard contract until the next decade! Everyone keeps saying early next year the ATR will be gone, do the math... Allot of crews to be displaced.

Around 100 ATR pilots in Dallas, it probably cost about 25,000 to fully qualify us into a new aircraft, that's 2,500,000 Dollars worth of training. I don't think Colgan can provide the feed that cheap right away.

Colgan 5 year Q400 Captain gets paid $64 and first year FO $26
Eagle 10 Year ATR Captain gets paid $ 80 and first year FO $25
FA Probably make 5 dollars an hr more so ad an extra 10

*there are other factors as well, contract and benefits but lets call those equal.

Colgan could probably do it 23 dollars an hr cheaper, with fuel at around 3 dollars a gallons that's around 8 gallons or around 60lbs of fuel. Remember that whoever takes some of the Eagle flying will use Eagle ground crews, and we already supply allot of ground handling for other airlines at the outstations. I am sure the ATR with an Eagle crew can overcome this number extremely easy. Not to mention if nothing extreme happens Eagle is about to cut their pilot cost substantially.

Originally Posted by Tsuda

Why not just ask the guy you are flying with? I know I would let someone copy down any company freqs that they may need. But, asking people to publish these frequencies over a public forum is not cool.

Originally Posted by theaviator

Its a frequency... not codes for a missle launch.

Originally Posted by exxcalibur11

imagine what that info could do.

Originally Posted by exxcalibur11

True, but if everyone had our frequencies then they would know how long we wait for rampers and gate agents. imagine what that info could do.

Originally Posted by ERJF15

Absolutely nothing!