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Old 10-12-2011, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by G5inmind View Post
When you get hired by eagle and you are under the 800/100, do you get a eagle class date as well as the RJ class ATP? Or do they wait until you pass the course to give you a class date?
Did you interview yet?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips View Post
The union just under 48 hours ago said they gave up with AMR management negotiating an agreement for our feed after our spinoff. This is in reference to the one already talked about, which starts parking planes FAST. They also made it clear that we WILL BE spunoff BY YEARS END. That seems bigger news than Sunday night football.

Eagle is an awful place to come right now. IF you can do not come here. WE are in for an awful 2012. Please someone explain otherwise, but I think we are ffffffd.
You need to do a little history lesson of how AMR/AA/AE operate, how they have negotiated in the past, and the games they play....

Your MEC did the right thing... for a change.

You guys are actually in a much better position than most in the industry.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason32 View Post
You need to do a little history lesson of how AMR/AA/AE operate, how they have negotiated in the past, and the games they play....

Your MEC did the right thing... for a change.

You guys are actually in a much better position than most in the industry.
The 1st email they sent out about this seemed to imply that the MEC was giving up on negotiations, but in the last few days I've heard it's the opposite. Which one is it?
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:02 PM
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The 1st email they sent out about this seemed to imply that the MEC was giving up on negotiations, but in the last few days I've heard it's the opposite. Which one is it?
The MEC rejected the TA which means all negotiations broke down. That doesn't mean that all parties can't come together again and start negotiations back up. AMR will need a new proposal this time...

The sky is not falling folks. Eagle is in a very good position right now. AMR knows it can't replace all of Eagle's flying which is why they were trying to lock us in to that 8 year "deal". They want to have their cake and eat it to.

Luckily the MEC threw it back at them and said NO. The best thing for us now is to wait until 2013 to negotiate a new contract. By that point AMR and other airlines will not have any leverage to strong-arm pilots the way they do now.

They realize this which was the whole reason they attempted to shove this TA down our throats so quickly.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:59 PM
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Anyone know how long before you can hold a line in SJU? How's life in SJU? (Yes, I used to search function. Read quite a bit but most of the posts seem to be a couple years old). Does anyone have any suggestions on weather it would be worth it too move there? If so what are some good areas to move to?
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:19 PM
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So who all is in the 24th class?
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:23 PM
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Anyone know how long before you can hold a line in SJU? How's life in SJU? (Yes, I used to search function. Read quite a bit but most of the posts seem to be a couple years old). Does anyone have any suggestions on weather it would be worth it too move there? If so what are some good areas to move to?
Only ATR, which is projected to begin being parked since they are old. Most people avoid it though so its a short RSV time. 5 months or less right now, but could change due to shrinking. NY isnt the easiest commute from SJU if you go for the mainland.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:45 PM
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Any idea on how they are going to cover the routes in the islands once all the ATR's are parked? What's the timescale before they are all parked anyways?
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:01 PM
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Any idea on how they are going to cover the routes in the islands once all the ATR's are parked? What's the timescale before they are all parked anyways?
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:15 PM
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any idea on how they are going to cover the routes in the islands once all the atr's are parked? What's the timescale before they are all parked anyways?
There are only about 3 airports that AMR absolutely needs the ATR for.
Beef Island, Key West and Nevis under 5K ft runway
Dominica, well just youtube landings in this place.

AMR has moved away from SJU and is doing allot of the flying with the 737 and 757 out of MIA (make sense, why concert in San Juan when you can go direct). The Bahamas are not economical on a Jet. You will see AMR continue to fly a Turbo Prop, probably the ATR 72-600. APA and AA are close to a contract, once this has been signed you will see a better picture on what will happen with Eagle. As of right now the older ATRs will be parked (we are in slow season), but AMR can implement the new ATR overnight since it only requires transition training that is just a few days worth of training. Similar to what we do now, train on the 72-212 and train differences on the 72-212A (-500). The main change will be the avionics and that can be done with CBT and very little hands on. The ATR can carry almost double it's weight while burning 1,600 lbs an hr. In short trips there is no airplane that can compete with it. So we have to wait and see what happens on the American Contract, then we can see where things might go...

Cough, cough... One List... A guy can only wish...

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