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10-29-2011 | 01:44 PM
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If you follow the last few pages RJ Pilot has been bashing on guys with low times. He just made a comment that is not worth the risk to fly with low time pilots. He doesn't want to be violated as an IOE check airman because of a low time pilot.
My point is that is a 2 way street. You could get in a less than favorable situation because of inexperience (IOE check airman/low time pilot) and also because of arrogance from an experienced pilot. Do you get my point?
My point is that is a 2 way street. You could get in a less than favorable situation because of inexperience (IOE check airman/low time pilot) and also because of arrogance from an experienced pilot. Do you get my point?
10-29-2011 | 01:51 PM
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I disagree. IOE is not babysitting the newbie whether high time or low time. They are there to get company ops line experience. Radio work, flying the airplane and paying attention is both parties responsibility. Unfortunately the newbie low time requires more attention (from experience) and at times you as the IOE captain miss something. But I will say arrogance is not needed in the cockpit.
10-29-2011 | 01:54 PM
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From: French-Canadian
I disagree. IOE is not babysitting the newbie whether high time or low time. They are there to get company ops line experience. Radio work, flying the airplane and paying attention is both parties responsibility. Unfortunately the newbie low time requires more attention (from experience) and at times you as the IOE captain miss something. But I will say arrogance is not needed in the cockpit.
We just have some people here who don't like low time pilots and forget that at one point in their life, someone was at the controls helping them fly an airplane.
10-29-2011 | 02:29 PM
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You can have 500 or 10,000 hrs and still fail a checkride.
But in reality, less experience before going into a 121 ops as PIC (135 cargo, CFI, banner towing, traffic, you name it) is less experience when you get into the captain seat.
You can get a FO job for any airline, but the experience in the real world alone it will worth the wait, because at the end in a emergency is not how much time you have is how you handle the situation. And the way to handle it is following company procedures and having some previous experience overall.
It's not the same having a simulated engine failure, than a real life engine failure or electrical problem. Plus you have to add how you feel at that moment, did you sleep well last night, is the leg #5 in that last day, etc.
But in reality, less experience before going into a 121 ops as PIC (135 cargo, CFI, banner towing, traffic, you name it) is less experience when you get into the captain seat.
You can get a FO job for any airline, but the experience in the real world alone it will worth the wait, because at the end in a emergency is not how much time you have is how you handle the situation. And the way to handle it is following company procedures and having some previous experience overall.
It's not the same having a simulated engine failure, than a real life engine failure or electrical problem. Plus you have to add how you feel at that moment, did you sleep well last night, is the leg #5 in that last day, etc.
10-31-2011 | 08:13 AM
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