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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
More importantly, what is management going to do tomorrow if there is no TA?

Airplanes start to move anyways?
Not legally.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Not legally.
When has that stopped them?!?!?!
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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Not legally.

little things such as union contracts or Federal law (FLMA, MIL leave etc) have never gotten in the way of 9e management before.....
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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:28 PM
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I just got off the phone with Sister Cleo.
She said sit down and pour yourself a glass of crew juice.... then another...

Pinnacle will NOT agree to a TA with the combined pilot group. They will wait a few months for guidance from the NMB on how to continue negotiations with Pinnacle Inc. pilots.

After being iced out by the NMB for 6 months, Phil T. will generiously offer to hire all Pinnacle pilots under the Mesaba certificate at year 1 pay. Since it only took them 6 months to transfer all aircraft over to Mesaba everything is cool and they are ready for summer flying!

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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
little things such as union contracts or Federal law (FLMA, MIL leave etc) have never gotten in the way of 9e management before.....
I'm not saying they won't try, I'm just saying it wouldn't be legal, in which case the XJ guys may be able to accomplish something the 9E guys haven't been able to attain, the right to strike.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
little things such as union contracts or Federal law (FLMA, MIL leave etc) have never gotten in the way of 9e management before.....
HAHAHAHA yea they have so badly tried to morph FMLA into SLA(Shawanda Leave Act) ...
On a side note, there is a loop hole You just gotta send her a bucket of fried chicken and she'll approve ANYTHING!
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Old 11-15-2010 | 02:52 PM
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I'm not saying they won't try, I'm just saying it wouldn't be legal, in which case the XJ guys may be able to accomplish something the 9E guys haven't been able to attain, the right to strike.
Be kinda hard since the XJ contract isn't ammendable. The JCBA process and the Section 6 negotiations that 9E has been mired in for the past several years are separate beasts. For XJ to "attain the right to strike," it'll be years after their current agreement is ammendable. If the two stay separate, the XJ pilots can't magically get the right to strike for the 9E guys. If the JCBA fails, don't look for XJ guys to be on strike for a LOOOONG time. At least, not legally. Would, as always, welcome the support at the 9E picket lines, though.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kellwolf
Be kinda hard since the XJ contract isn't ammendable. The JCBA process and the Section 6 negotiations that 9E has been mired in for the past several years are separate beasts. For XJ to "attain the right to strike," it'll be years after their current agreement is ammendable. If the two stay separate, the XJ pilots can't magically get the right to strike for the 9E guys. If the JCBA fails, don't look for XJ guys to be on strike for a LOOOONG time. At least, not legally. Would, as always, welcome the support at the 9E picket lines, though.
This instance has nothing to do with section 6 negotiations, but with what's considered a "major" dispute of a contract that falls under the RLA.

If a company tries a major violation of a contract, which moving airplanes would violate XJ scope, and the union follows the procedures outlined by the RLA, then they would be able to strike.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
This instance has nothing to do with section 6 negotiations, but with what's considered a "major" dispute of a contract that falls under the RLA.

If a company tries a major violation of a contract, which moving airplanes would violate XJ scope, and the union follows the procedures outlined by the RLA, then they would be able to strike.
If they try that, then I whole heartedly agree. I'll even be on the first flight to walk with you guys. Rest assured if they DO try that stunt, if I walk up to a flight that turns out to be an XJ plane, I'll turn around and walk the other way.
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Old 11-15-2010 | 08:00 PM
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Well We could all sit around and be angry and feel sorry for ourselves, or................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1...eature=related
Whats it going to be?

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