Pinnacle/Colgan/Mesaba TA Countdown
11-16-2010, 02:43 AM
#601
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 152
While I am grateful to our MECs, this post is in direct response to management.
How much bull* do you need to be fed until you realize it's bull*, and it will always be bull*?
This may just be enough for many of you to call in Sick, and often. Completely understandable you may be unfit to fly after such a debacle.
As for moving forward, and in the sole interest of safety and following the procedures management has put forth themselves, ANY and ALL maintenance discrepancies should be WRITTEN UP, no matter the delay or "disruption" it may cause, at the time of discovery, hub or not. No matter the size or seriousness. Management isn't out there covering for you, you need to cover for you!
How much bull* do you need to be fed until you realize it's bull*, and it will always be bull*?
This may just be enough for many of you to call in Sick, and often. Completely understandable you may be unfit to fly after such a debacle.
As for moving forward, and in the sole interest of safety and following the procedures management has put forth themselves, ANY and ALL maintenance discrepancies should be WRITTEN UP, no matter the delay or "disruption" it may cause, at the time of discovery, hub or not. No matter the size or seriousness. Management isn't out there covering for you, you need to cover for you!
Last edited by whtever; 11-16-2010 at 05:08 AM.
11-16-2010, 03:49 AM
#602
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Assistant Greens Keeper
Posts: 1,011
Guys/Gals
This is it...we have to take it into our own hands... nothing will get done after NOV30 this deadline has proved that. The previous email to the last one said mngmnt yet again tried to go back on things that had been TA'd in TA1... This will continue for ATLEAST another year. They dont care.
The time is now.
This is it...we have to take it into our own hands... nothing will get done after NOV30 this deadline has proved that. The previous email to the last one said mngmnt yet again tried to go back on things that had been TA'd in TA1... This will continue for ATLEAST another year. They dont care.
The time is now.
11-16-2010, 04:23 AM
#603
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Zee Airboos
Posts: 404
good luck getting the vast majority of pu$$*'s at this company to man up. there are a handful of us that walk the walk, but unfortunatly we are too few and far between to get anything accomplished.
11-16-2010, 04:32 AM
#604
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: CRJ Captain
Posts: 1,406
Originally Posted by Windsor
good luck getting the vast majority of pu$$*'s at this company to man up. there are a handful of us that walk the walk, but unfortunatly we are too few and far between to get anything accomplished.
11-16-2010, 05:27 AM
#605
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
This is second hand info off of the former 9E MEC chairman, who is a piece of work himself. Don't know if it can be trusted or not, just wondering if any of you XJ types have your contract handy and can confirm or deny this.
11-16-2010, 05:55 AM
#606
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: Up Front
Posts: 1,628
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I heard earlier today that there is a certain key phrase in the fragmentation policy at XJ that simply states that they shall be "offered employment" at the place(s) buying XJ in the event of fragmentation. Is this true? That may be a critical loophole....
D. Transfer of Company Aircraft
1. If the Company or its parent sells, transfers, or disposes of over forty percent (40%) of the aircraft in the Company's fleet (in a single transaction or multi-step transaction within a rolling twelve (12) month period) as a going concern to an air carrier, directly or indirectly, the Company or its parent will, as a condition of the sale, require the purchaser to offer employment to those pilots assigned to that portion of the fleet at the time of the sale.
1. If the Company or its parent sells, transfers, or disposes of over forty percent (40%) of the aircraft in the Company's fleet (in a single transaction or multi-step transaction within a rolling twelve (12) month period) as a going concern to an air carrier, directly or indirectly, the Company or its parent will, as a condition of the sale, require the purchaser to offer employment to those pilots assigned to that portion of the fleet at the time of the sale.
Any moving of aircraft by PNCL management would result in a "merger" situation. In which case, XJ Merger Protection clause kicks in and has to be followed.
I believe the section I posted above was to protect XJ pilots from the sale of the airline to another airline that may have had pilots already, to insure the pilots at XJ kept their jobs.
11-16-2010, 06:18 AM
#607
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Joined APC: May 2008
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 405
congrats on the good news!!!
Pncl shares are up 5% already on the fabulous news that labor costs will remain sub-poverty for another quarter! Cause as you know, the decline in profit last quarter was from increased labor costs.
11-16-2010, 07:57 AM
#610
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: DC-9 Neo, Right
Posts: 158
Originally Posted by whtever
While I am grateful to our MECs, this post is in direct response to management.
How much bull* do you need to be fed until you realize it's bull*, and it will always be bull*?
This may just be enough for many of you to call in Sick, and often. Completely understandable you may be unfit to fly after such a debacle.
As for moving forward, and in the sole interest of safety and following the procedures management has put forth themselves, ANY and ALL maintenance discrepancies should be WRITTEN UP, no matter the delay or "disruption" it may cause, at the time of discovery, hub or not. No matter the size or seriousness. Management isn't out there covering for you, you need to cover for you!
How much bull* do you need to be fed until you realize it's bull*, and it will always be bull*?
This may just be enough for many of you to call in Sick, and often. Completely understandable you may be unfit to fly after such a debacle.
As for moving forward, and in the sole interest of safety and following the procedures management has put forth themselves, ANY and ALL maintenance discrepancies should be WRITTEN UP, no matter the delay or "disruption" it may cause, at the time of discovery, hub or not. No matter the size or seriousness. Management isn't out there covering for you, you need to cover for you!
We have so many sissies at this company it makes me sick!!! Close the door, says the almighty Pinnacle captain, we need to push NOW...gate space is limited
...kill the APU (neverminding it's the middle of June)...I'm sick of this crap!!Oh it's highspeed number two of four for both of us...we can't write that up!! Why not go back to the hotel and take a nap? Screw 'em!!
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