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Old 10-22-2011 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8tion
I still think they should just keep you on the 200 and give you super-senority until you hit 1000/100 then displace you depending on the number of open slots... essentially turn your displacement now into a phantom bid...
What about the guys that would be holding that position but can't because the sub 1000/100 guys are still in the position? Will they just overstaff that position until they can effectively displace them or will the guys not flying their awarded position receive bypass pay?

IMO, this is yet another thing upper management didn't even think about when all this went down. I'm sure they'll choose to put these pilots in the LAST training class possible hoping they make it to the 1000/100 mark. Tough to do when you're starting with some of these guys in the mid-200 to low 300s in total time, though.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kellwolf
What about the guys that would be holding that position but can't because the sub 1000/100 guys are still in the position? Will they just overstaff that position until they can effectively displace them or will the guys not flying their awarded position receive bypass pay?

IMO, this is yet another thing upper management didn't even think about when all this went down. I'm sure they'll choose to put these pilots in the LAST training class possible hoping they make it to the 1000/100 mark. Tough to do when you're starting with some of these guys in the mid-200 to low 300s in total time, though.
like you said what about the guys displacing into these positions? I got awarded one of the bases where theses guys are through my displacement, if they are keeping these guys there and not allowing us to go to our awarded position we better recieve bypass pay. But like you said where will we go until then if they wont overstaff it? They cant displace us to IAD officially because there are tons of JR people in these bases we were awarded.

Since when does a seniority based system create favors for a specific group?

Also what about the guys in LGA who have less than 1000/100 goin to IAD? They cant park it on the jet to buildtime and XJ Saabs go bye bye soon...

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Old 10-22-2011 | 10:49 AM
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FWIW I was placed into a 9L class with 900/700 (about 500 turbine) So the mins. can be relaxed a little but I believe the 100 ME is the one they will not budge on. I was hired on the XJ side but was approved to be placed into a 9L class. I am sure I'll get the 50 hours of OE but it does sound as if there is wiggle room on a per candidate basis (at least what I was told by XJ HR, had to be approved by VP of Ops at 9L).

Also, does anyone know the move date for 11-09 yet?
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Old 10-22-2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk
FWIW I was placed into a 9L class with 900/700 (about 500 turbine) So the mins. can be relaxed a little but I believe the 100 ME is the one they will not budge on. I was hired on the XJ side but was approved to be placed into a 9L class. I am sure I'll get the 50 hours of OE but it does sound as if there is wiggle room on a per candidate basis (at least what I was told by XJ HR, had to be approved by VP of Ops at 9L).

Also, does anyone know the move date for 11-09 yet?
The bid for the class dates will be open on the 28th. The award with everyone's class date will be out on nov 1.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by G5inmind
Well I happen to be one of those bridge people. So they are just going to make us sit here and wait till the 200 opens back up, or actually send us a furlough letter. I guess they will let us just float around in the pool. I can't understand how their is more info given by people on here then what is actually told to the people who gave up their jobs, moved out of town, and now sleeping in a back room just to keep flying. I think we deserve a little more communication.
But like they say "everything happens for a reason"
I should say that you would probably know best, but then again I'm familiar with 9E and the communication (or lack there of) from those in cubicles. For what it's worth I heard yesterday from an instructor that you guys were on paid leave for now and that there were only about 6 of you so they may not be in the biggest hurry to figure this out unfortunatly for your sake.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by C152PIC
I should say that you would probably know best, but then again I'm familiar with 9E and the communication (or lack there of) from those in cubicles. For what it's worth I heard yesterday from an instructor that you guys were on paid leave for now and that there were only about 6 of you so they may not be in the biggest hurry to figure this out unfortunatly for your sake.
You put ME on paid leave? Take your sweet time.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WIPilot
The bid for the class dates will be open on the 28th. The award with everyone's class date will be out on nov 1.
with that timeline I would assume the move date for those not changing certificates or equipment (pure domicile move) would be dec 1...
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Old 10-23-2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Have you guys finished TRNG? Have you called HR?
No i never started. They called and just told me not to show up and just wait till they find out some new info.
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Old 10-23-2011 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by C152PIC
I should say that you would probably know best, but then again I'm familiar with 9E and the communication (or lack there of) from those in cubicles. For what it's worth I heard yesterday from an instructor that you guys were on paid leave for now and that there were only about 6 of you so they may not be in the biggest hurry to figure this out unfortunatly for your sake.
I don't have any paychecks coming my way. They told me two weeks ago that I was number 5 for the next class but they didn't know when that was going to happen
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Old 10-23-2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by G5inmind
I don't have any paychecks coming my way. They told me two weeks ago that I was number 5 for the next class but they didn't know when that was going to happen
I think he was referring to 6 people who had already finished training and were already on payroll. Obviously they won't pay anyone who hasn't yet started class.
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