You only get the green pay if you get in early. So if you leave late you won't get it as far as work rules they are average.

 

If you hire in with more than 1500tt you can bid Captain lines. You also must have AT LEAST 100HRS in Gulfstream aircraft, maybe more. They have to make sure you can fly etc, without compromising safety. We have a few folks in our class that have already bid Captain and once they acheive the 100 hours guess what they will be doing?

So yea, Captain upgrade here can come INCREDIBLY FAST. Also, as far as g/s very nice, actually interesting the way they do it. Lot's of fun. So folks can talk and say blah blah blah about Gulfstream, but exercise your mind and steer your own course rather than letting some internet "expert" (who doesn"t even work for this company) tell you things about this airline that isn't true, outdated, or just plain wrong. Well, back to studying. INDOc test this friday.

 

Don't want to pay a $24,000.00 hit pro-rated? Stay the two years. Your friend makes more at a regional than our first year Captains? Well tell him to stay where he's at. He'll upgrade, eventually in like what 3-5 years? then another couple of years to get the majors tpic time. In the mean time, we (bottom feeders - yea right) upon reaching 1500 hrs with this company total time will have upgraded, made captain, flew our 1000 hours and moved on to other things. Really perhaps if you and your friend took time to find out things for yourself and realize we are not the old gulfstream then maybe you could come to a fair and objective conclusion rather than listening to gossip.

We have a guy who did come over from the other regional with a five year upgrade. He plans on making Captain as soon as he gets his 100 hours. Our time varies, but when we get 1500 total time we are all going to bid Captain. Best of luck at the regional your at upgrading that fast.

 

At 1,500hrs NO ONE should be in command of an airliner, even a 19 seat one. I'm sorry, but that time is not hard to get and the ink is still barely dry on your Commercial, let alone your ATP. I speak from experience, I've flown the Jetstream 31/32 and I've flown the A320, I'm currently flying the EMB-145. Each aircraft presents a totally different challenge, but I would argue that the J31/32 flying I did was the most challenging by a long way. You are constantly in the weather, there is no autopilot and the weather radar doesn't paint a helpful picture of the ACTUAL weather. You may think it's just like flying a big Duchess, but the truth is that you have 20 other lives in your hands. That is not an environment in which to learn, it is an environment that requires a truly experienced aviator who has scared themselves half to death countless times without anyone paying to be in the back...and students don't count as paying passengers.

I don't personally have a problem with Gulfstream, they seem to be turning themselves around. However, the sense of entitlement you present is truly astounding. Just because you'll have 1,500hrs it doesn't mean you are good enough, or experienced enough for the left seat.

The flying will be fun, I have no doubt, and I'm sure you'll learn a lot from it. But please remember that you are not there for kicks, and that a command should not be taken just because it is offered. You need to be ready to sign for that aircraft and all of the passengers onboard. Not just when the weather is beautiful and you're island hopping, but also when it's blowing a gale, weather is down to minimums and it's gusting 45kts across the runway.

From your post I take it you are new to airline flying. The 1,500hr upgrade, followed by 1,000hrs TPIC and off to a major is a wonderful dream, but I'm afraid that is all it is, a dream. There are THOUSANDS of pilots, some with nearly 10,000hrs TPIC ahead of you waiting for that hallowed RHS at a major. I thought briefly about jumping to Gulfstream when I read about their offer at first. My company currently has a four year upgrade. However, in reality I don't think TPIC on a B1900 is going to get me much further than SIC on the EMB-145, J31 or A320 any time soon. Look at who is hiring today; JetBlue etc no longer have a TPIC requirement, they do however, want EFIS and FMS experience. I'll stay where I am thanks.

Enjoy the flying, good luck in class. Check the attitude at the door.

 

Everything 3stripes said I agree with. Without coming across as a jerk I'm not too impressed with much anymore.

 

How hard is it to get Tampa as a base?

 

How long are they going to be hiring like this?

 

Tampa and FLL are pretty senior my guess a year or so out. Not sure how much they will hire like this. Training is alright, but I guess I just don't feel the same about the place anymore. Not what I thought airline training would be like. Hard, but not impossible, but just different than what other places seem to be like. One peeve of mine is the epaulettes and wings are given out basically right away. IMO those need to be earned not given.

 

[QUOTE=3stripes;} Check the attitude at the door.[/QUOTE]

The only attitude I see displayed here is yours and your negativity. If I'd have followed your advice 5 years ago I'd still be stuck at Pinnacle building my efas and fms time in an RJ. I ignored the naysayers and took the opportunity, I'm now at DAL, a lineholder on a widebody. The other FO's that gave me the same advice and negativity you are dishing out are still at Pinnacle. The guys hired at GIA now are at the beginning of a hiring wave and will be ready with Thier tpic when the wave starts at the majors. You my friend will just have upgraded. By the time you get on with a major it will be towards the end of the cycle and you will be stuck on narrowbody reserve for years and furlough fodder. These guys will all upgrade to captain at a major before you and will hold a widebody before you. By dissing GIA now you are setting yourself up for a frustrating and mediocre career.

In the end I conservatively estimate that my jump from Pinnacle FO to GIA Captain will net ne at a minimum $400,000 more in career earnings and untold improvement in QOL. That's what it's all about in the end.

 

Don't worry, I won't do it until I feel I'm ready. I 'm sure I still have a lot to learn just on the right seat side of the aircraft. Hey, I'm going to enjoy this and have some fun. No attitude, just sick of the attacks that people make against the place. If you wanna find out about how we do things down here, just come on down. Gulfstream is really trying to get thier act toghether.
Those of you who are wondering about a class date in Jan, what has happened is there is a qual class coming in. The company is letting those who turned down recall and accepted work elsewhere who may now be furloughed or about to be come back and get thier job. They resigned thier senoirity # when they left, so for Gulfstream to do that is pretty cool. New hire class toward the middle or end of January. HIRING INDEFINITE.
Back to studying and 3- sorry if I came off as a anal spincter. I appreciate your advice and yes, I am new to airline flying. All the best to you.