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Old 01-17-2013 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
SH has said this openly. The XJT MEC has openly bashed the ASA MEC in blast emails to their pilot group while the ASA MEC has refused to engage in the negative rhetoric. I prefer to trust the ASA MEC because they are behaving professionally in public.
gtech....As you know, I support the position of our MEC, but I and others are growing tired of the "behaving professionally in public" while the XJT MEC attacks in blast emails and on the message boards.....Our MEC is losing the public battle that is going on by not attacking back...Take that back to the MEC before it is too late....
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Old 01-17-2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
Well, they are behaving extremely unproffesionally in negotiations. Take that for what its worth.
I'll take that the same way I do all the other lies...
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Old 01-17-2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
I'll take that the same way I do all the other lies...
Why would I lie? I want this thing done asap. You are not interested in our line bidding, we are not interested in flightline. We would like to compromise. Dont like smartpref? No problem, we dont care. Please make another suggestion, we are willing to listen to anything. We are not nasty, there are no negative feelings here. We won't push our system on you and respectfully ask you dont push yours on us. We are not saying smartpref or nothing! We have proposed a number of solutions, you have been unwilling to listen to any of them! What do you propose we do? Its the same as if we were to say our line bidding or nothing. You guys would have nothing to talk to us about, right? WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH! We want to find a compromise!
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Old 01-17-2013 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
Why would I lie? I want this thing done asap. You are not interested in our line bidding, we are not interested in flightline. We would like to compromise. Dont like smartpref? No problem, we dont care. Please make another suggestion, we are willing to listen to anything. We are not nasty, there are no negative feelings here. We won't push our system on you and respectfully ask you dont push yours on us. We are not saying smartpref or nothing! We have proposed a number of solutions, you have been unwilling to listen to any of them! What do you propose we do? Its the same as if we were to say our line bidding or nothing. You guys would have nothing to talk to us about, right? WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH! We want to find a compromise!
What's wrong with status quo? Your pilots prefer your line bidding to either PBS system...Why is your MEC pushing something that NEITHER pilot group wants?
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Old 01-18-2013 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
This is directly caused by the ASA MEC giving management their "flight line or no merger" ultimatum. You want unity? Tell your MEC to drop their ultimatum and get on board with smartpref in order to continue back on joint negotiations.
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Fine by me. Just stating facts and letting the poster know who is preventing unity, the ASA MEC and their ultimatum. Like I said, go ahead and keep it up, we will all find out what the final outcome of the company negotiating dual class RJ rates. My guess is that it would end up worse for the ASA side.

No, just saying that its the ASA MEC who has turned down every single idea to get this PBS issue resolved.

Only for the ASA MEC. They have literally set a flight line PBS or no merger ultimatum. They have tuned down ways to move forward because they are being intransigent, like they've been from the beginning.
Captain Tony, is that you?
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Old 01-18-2013 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Captain Tony, is that you?
I see what you did there. Touché sir.
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Old 01-18-2013 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
What's wrong with status quo? Your pilots prefer your line bidding to either PBS system...Why is your MEC pushing something that NEITHER pilot group wants?
Wow JoeMerchant why didn't we think of that? BECAUSE WE DID!!!!!! AND THE ASA MEC SAID "NO." We called it dual track where everyone took a different bidding system.

Time to pull your heads out of the sand and get informed.
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Old 01-18-2013 | 05:39 AM
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Wow JoeMerchant why didn't we think of that? BECAUSE WE DID!!!!!! AND THE ASA MEC SAID "NO." We called it dual track where everyone took a different bidding system.

Time to pull your heads out of the sand and get informed.

Hate to break this to you. The ASA side proposed the dual track but wanted to stay separate MEC's until whichever system was ratified by the pilots. Your side said no to that. Why?
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Old 01-18-2013 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
gtech....As you know, I support the position of our MEC, but I and others are growing tired of the "behaving professionally in public" while the XJT MEC attacks in blast emails and on the message boards.....Our MEC is losing the public battle that is going on by not attacking back...Take that back to the MEC before it is too late....
You are losing the public battle because you don't have a rebuttal that doesn't make the ASA MEC look worse. I would love to see the ASA MEC explain their side of things but their last attempt at that was filled with a tired and half-truthful explanation of flightline. Keeping up this charade in front of your own people is one thing but I am pretty certain that they can't publicly go after the XJT MEC because they would be sued.
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Old 01-18-2013 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Hate to break this to you. The ASA side proposed the dual track but wanted to stay separate MEC's until whichever system was ratified by the pilots. Your side said no to that. Why?
nevermind...
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