But your not changing the way regional pilots negotiate. Every group is competing with each other for a shrinking piece of the pie....If you don't have brand scope and if you don't stop the competition within a brand, you will continue to see more of the same.

Your union, ALPA has failed you over the years and your mainline "brothers" actually encourage this environment.

Who do you work for?

 

What would happen with these new large RJs that are coming if every single regional pilot group rejected concessions? Can you answer that hypothetical?

 

The birth of a new alter-ego airline.

 

Finally someone gets it.

 

I was wondering the same thing. What is to stop another regional from being created if upper management doesn't get the deal they want from current regionals?

 

And how much would it cost to start such new airline? Also, GoJet was born out of necessity for AA SCOPE more than anything else. It's not cost effective to run a very small operation even if the pilots are paid less. Stop believing that pilots dictate where billions of dollars worth of aircraft are placed. Mainline pilots get raises that far supersede the regional cuts being asked, don't give me this crap that 50 seaters are not cost effective and that regionals are not made to make that much. Blah, blah, blah. We regionals pilots fly over 50% of the domestic departures often across 2 time zones and many times over 1000nm. We are not regional airlines. I have started a day one the East cost and finished on the west coast, that's not regional to me.

But whatever, keep bending over for management due to fear. Have pride, self respect and dignity. I am not sure what other professions are willing to accept concessions time after time.

 

BS. They were formed to get around a CBA that required more $$ for larger aircraft. That simple. (Republic had the same "issue" with AA scope, and yet they managed to have one list for their certificates.)

Speaking of everyone's favorite bottom feeder, they'd be happy to take paycuts to fly any new jets.

 

Republic? Or Go?

 

There are no pilots, good luck staffing a start up regional. Even if the current regionals furlough I doubt a large portion of those pilots would go to a new regional. I'm at the point now where I would welcome a furlough, I need a kick in the ass to get out of this horrible industry and I imagine I'm not alone in being unwilling to jump from one garbage airline to another just to chase that mythical mainline job.

 

The AA SCOPE didn't say anything about pilots being on a certificate, all it said is that the operator certificate would not be allowed to have airframes larger than 50 seaters. Republic operates the AA 140's on the Chattaqua certificate whom only has 50 seaters or less.

The AA SCOPE did specify that any aircraft larger than 50 seats must be operated by American Eagle Pilots and the American Eagle Airlines SCOPE stated that only the pilots under American Eagle Holdings could operate as American Eagle. But both of those SCOPE clauses are gone now.