Wheels falling off at RAH
07-24-2015 | 05:17 PM
#1021
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Please tell me how you know that the union is "not being unreasonable." Really, I have seen absolutely nothing from the union. The company has at least shown us bits and pieces. The union needs to remember this is a negotiation, not a list of demands. Also, tell me how you know that what the company has offered is "concessionary."
Maybe what the union has been demanding is so far out in left field that no progress was being made that the company just said "fck it, here ya go!"
Maybe what the union has been demanding is so far out in left field that no progress was being made that the company just said "fck it, here ya go!"
Is that you Brian?
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07-24-2015 | 05:22 PM
#1022
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The union came out with their original figure for backpay fully expecting the company to negotiate on that figure. They knew full well they weren't going to get it, but thats why its called negotiating, start high and meet in the middle. The company responded by throwing a sh!tfit, releasing well vetted details from their "comprehensive" proposal and now they are headed the route of doom and gloom! Textbook union busting. Not going to work this time, they will either pay up or this place goes away and the first of hopefully ALL the regionals kicks and screams and spits its way into history.
07-24-2015 | 05:30 PM
#1023
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From: 737 FO
Ladies and Gentlemen:
All the regional managements know that once one of them raises pay and benefits, the cat is out of the bag and they ALL will have to to remain competitive. Much like when PSA voted in concessions setting the bar lower (hopefully temporarily).
Management knows that time is short, and is not on their side. Hold the line, this profession is counting on you. If you hold the line, Major Airline mgt will eventually HAVE to raise the rates they pay the regionals or their business model will have to change. It should.
All the regional managements know that once one of them raises pay and benefits, the cat is out of the bag and they ALL will have to to remain competitive. Much like when PSA voted in concessions setting the bar lower (hopefully temporarily).
Management knows that time is short, and is not on their side. Hold the line, this profession is counting on you. If you hold the line, Major Airline mgt will eventually HAVE to raise the rates they pay the regionals or their business model will have to change. It should.
07-24-2015 | 05:33 PM
#1024
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From: Emb 170/175 FO
I absolutely do not think it is unreasonable, unlikely, but not unreasonable. I think the NC is thinking along the same lines. The company IS being completely unreasonable by not even entertaining the idea of negotiating any backpay. In this environment??? They aren't in control anymore and they are crying like little b!tches because of it.
07-24-2015 | 05:38 PM
#1025
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From: Emb 170/175 FO
Ladies and Gentlemen:
All the regional managements know that once one of them raises pay and benefits, the cat is out of the bag and they ALL will have to to remain competitive. Much like when PSA voted in concessions setting the bar lower (hopefully temporarily).
Management knows that time is short, and is not on their side. Hold the line, this profession is counting on you. If you hold the line, Major Airline mgt will eventually HAVE to raise the rates they pay the regionals or their business model will have to change. It should.
All the regional managements know that once one of them raises pay and benefits, the cat is out of the bag and they ALL will have to to remain competitive. Much like when PSA voted in concessions setting the bar lower (hopefully temporarily).
Management knows that time is short, and is not on their side. Hold the line, this profession is counting on you. If you hold the line, Major Airline mgt will eventually HAVE to raise the rates they pay the regionals or their business model will have to change. It should.
07-24-2015 | 05:49 PM
#1026
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Preach it!! The end result here will set the tone for all other negotiations going forward. RAH pilots have drawn their line in the sand, no more retreats, no more concessions. No one else has the staffing or the aircraft to replace us except mainline. And if you think they aren't concerned as to how this is going, think again. Its time for ALL of us to be paid what we deserve. We do the same job, time to pay up.
07-24-2015 | 05:55 PM
#1027
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As much as id like to see a new and great cba, its never going to happen. Bedford and co. will shut the place down before paying us what we are worth. The truth is that the demise of rah and bedford is a great thing for the industry. It will be painful for myself and many pilots trying unsuccessfully to leave. Rah is finished. The only question is how long will it take.
07-24-2015 | 05:58 PM
#1028
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From: Emb 170/175 FO
As much as id like to see a new and great cba, its never going to happen. Bedford and co. will shut the place down before paying us what we are worth. The truth is that the demise of rah and bedford is a great thing for the industry. It will be painful for myself and many pilots trying unsuccessfully to leave. Rah is finished. The only question is how long will it take.
07-24-2015 | 06:28 PM
#1029
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As much as id like to see a new and great cba, its never going to happen. Bedford and co. will shut the place down before paying us what we are worth. The truth is that the demise of rah and bedford is a great thing for the industry. It will be painful for myself and many pilots trying unsuccessfully to leave. Rah is finished. The only question is how long will it take.
07-25-2015 | 01:12 AM
#1030
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I absolutely do not think it is unreasonable, unlikely, but not unreasonable. I think the NC is thinking along the same lines. The company IS being completely unreasonable by not even entertaining the idea of negotiating any backpay. In this environment??? They aren't in control anymore and they are crying like little b!tches because of it.
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