Currently how far out are the class dates?
#141
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No idea how this post is at all relevant to anything I posted. There isn’t a regional in the game that has a better work rules contract than Republic. That’s a fact. Whether or not it’s a stepping stone is irrelevant. We all have to start somewhere. I had never been inside an airplane when the $36.62 club was around. Currently, right now, today, Republic is the best there is at this level. That doesn’t mean there isn’t room for improvement. It doesn’t mean we don’t need a new contract. It doesn’t mean the company is perfect or gives a **** about its pilots. It just means we’ve got it better than anyone else.
#142
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What SPECIFIC work rules do you have that is better than anyone else. And don’t say “no airport reserve” because it is in the contract RPA just choose not to use it (at this time). I’ll give you no junior manning but will counter offer with no Positive Space commuting & No Commuter Hotels. So those both wash each other out. Oh and you need some “big work rules” to out weigh your (lack of) sign on bonuses and less than standard F/O Starting wage. Oh and your 1800/mth new hire training rate of pay (for the first 30 days following ATP/CTP class. So basically your first 40 days) vs the others who pay 75 guarantee from day 1 (after ATP/CTP).
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nah, you're a well known troll so do your own research. I would just like to point out the irony that you want work rules in the contract to be pointed out while at the same time you point out things that are not in the contract at other regionals. Positive space commute seating is an LOA that will go away and bonuses come and go and are usually a bandied to cover up horrible work conditions and pay.
#144
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What SPECIFIC work rules do you have that is better than anyone else. And don’t say “no airport reserve” because it is in the contract RPA just choose not to use it (at this time). I’ll give you no junior manning but will counter offer with no Positive Space commuting & No Commuter Hotels. So those both wash each other out. Oh and you need some “big work rules” to out weigh your (lack of) sign on bonuses and less than standard F/O Starting wage. Oh and your 1800/mth new hire training rate of pay (for the first 30 days following ATP/CTP class. So basically your first 40 days) vs the others who pay 75 guarantee from day 1 (after ATP/CTP).
No hot reserve. It may technically be allowed, but the company doesn’t do it, and our reserve/rest rules pretty much prevent it. I’ve never done it and don’t know anybody who has.
No junior manning
Minimum 2 days off between trips unless waived by the pilot
No fewer than 2 separate blocks of 3+ days off per bid period, unless waived. Pilot can choose to make that a single block of 6 days off if he/she wants.
Rental car provided on long overnights
Uber/Taxi provided if hotel shuttle takes longer than 30 min.
Daytime hotels provided if we have a 5+ hour sit
Flight benefits on all 3 legacy carriers with ZED agreements on almost all the internationals.
Ability to drop/pick up trips, Red pay, etc.
Super Bowl Sunday is a paid holiday.
While we don’t get commuter hotels, we are able to list for unused company reserved hotels for free on a first come, first served basis.
Block or better pay, with 4:12 min daily credit.
Extra pay for dealing with Customs while flying International
I’ve had 17+ scheduled days off the last 3 months and have credited over 110 hours because of our ability to add/drop/adjust our schedules with premium pay. Last month, I dropped a 4 day trip and immediately picked it right back up for 200% pay.
Life is good at RPA. Compensation package will happen soon enough, and BB is on record as stating we will be the highest compensated regional in the industry. That’s kinda wild for the CEO to say something like that publicly, but that’s where we’re headed.
Anything else?
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#146
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there are a lot of things that make our work life pretty sweet compared to the rest.
No hot reserve. It may technically be allowed, but the company doesn’t do it, and our reserve/rest rules pretty much prevent it. I’ve never done it and don’t know anybody who has.
It is in there they can use it when they chose.
No junior manning
excellent
minimum 2 days off between trips unless waived by the pilot
only applies to line-holders. Restricts you from bidding to have your trips back to back to expand your days off block.
No fewer than 2 separate blocks of 3+ days off per bid period, unless waived. Pilot can choose to make that a single block of 6 days off if he/she wants.
If your trips were bid stacked, then you could get 4 or 5 days off in a row without having to trade.
Rental car provided on long overnights
long overnight is i belive 30+ hours, not caused by irregular ops (these long layovers are a waste of your time).
Uber/taxi provided if hotel shuttle takes longer than 30 min.
All airlines have this.
Daytime hotels provided if we have a 5+ hour sit
five hiyr sits are unproductive waste of time.
Flight benefits on all 3 legacy carriers with zed agreements on almost all the internationals.
Standby (for a yearly fee) on all 3 legacy carries after their own and wholly own go. So in other words a famiky of 4 or 5 on vacation better buy confirmed seats. All other carriers have zed which is also standyby for a fee.
Ability to drop/pick up trips, red pay, etc.
Common with all regionals. Even black pay.
Super bowl sunday is a paid holiday.
Not all, but some have this holiday included.
While we don’t get commuter hotels, we are able to list for unused company reserved hotels for free on a first come, first served basis.
Very rarely approved in nyc
block or better pay, with 4:12 min daily credit.
Most regionals have this.
Extra pay for dealing with customs while flying international
most regionals have this
i’ve had 17+ scheduled days off the last 3 months and have credited over 110 hours because of our ability to add/drop/adjust our schedules with premium pay. Last month, i dropped a 4 day trip and immediately picked it right back up for 200% pay.
So you are admitting you have to work lots of extra flying because your hourly salary doesn’t support a family living in base on 75 month guarantee.
Life is good at rpa. Compensation package will happen soon enough, and bb is on record as stating we will be the highest compensated regional in the industry. That’s kinda wild for the ceo to say something like that publicly, but that’s where we’re headed.
What does history show the length of time it takes for the company & union to pass a pilot contract. Also, ask the flight attendants how their negotiations are going? Strike soon?
Anything else?
No hot reserve. It may technically be allowed, but the company doesn’t do it, and our reserve/rest rules pretty much prevent it. I’ve never done it and don’t know anybody who has.
It is in there they can use it when they chose.
No junior manning
excellent
minimum 2 days off between trips unless waived by the pilot
only applies to line-holders. Restricts you from bidding to have your trips back to back to expand your days off block.
No fewer than 2 separate blocks of 3+ days off per bid period, unless waived. Pilot can choose to make that a single block of 6 days off if he/she wants.
If your trips were bid stacked, then you could get 4 or 5 days off in a row without having to trade.
Rental car provided on long overnights
long overnight is i belive 30+ hours, not caused by irregular ops (these long layovers are a waste of your time).
Uber/taxi provided if hotel shuttle takes longer than 30 min.
All airlines have this.
Daytime hotels provided if we have a 5+ hour sit
five hiyr sits are unproductive waste of time.
Flight benefits on all 3 legacy carriers with zed agreements on almost all the internationals.
Standby (for a yearly fee) on all 3 legacy carries after their own and wholly own go. So in other words a famiky of 4 or 5 on vacation better buy confirmed seats. All other carriers have zed which is also standyby for a fee.
Ability to drop/pick up trips, red pay, etc.
Common with all regionals. Even black pay.
Super bowl sunday is a paid holiday.
Not all, but some have this holiday included.
While we don’t get commuter hotels, we are able to list for unused company reserved hotels for free on a first come, first served basis.
Very rarely approved in nyc
block or better pay, with 4:12 min daily credit.
Most regionals have this.
Extra pay for dealing with customs while flying international
most regionals have this
i’ve had 17+ scheduled days off the last 3 months and have credited over 110 hours because of our ability to add/drop/adjust our schedules with premium pay. Last month, i dropped a 4 day trip and immediately picked it right back up for 200% pay.
So you are admitting you have to work lots of extra flying because your hourly salary doesn’t support a family living in base on 75 month guarantee.
Life is good at rpa. Compensation package will happen soon enough, and bb is on record as stating we will be the highest compensated regional in the industry. That’s kinda wild for the ceo to say something like that publicly, but that’s where we’re headed.
What does history show the length of time it takes for the company & union to pass a pilot contract. Also, ask the flight attendants how their negotiations are going? Strike soon?
Anything else?
#147
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explain why the company only pays new hires 1800.00 for their first month if employment? I will help, because the new hire is so poor, it forces them to sign the “sign-on bonus” contract which affords them an extra 1000.00 to survive, then rpa gets all the bonus money back when they move on in less than five years. It is a *****huge scam*****
It is incredibly bizarre to me that the only thing you bring up in all your posts is first year pay and sign on bonuses. It is painfully obvious that you’ve never been in a Part 121 environment, and for all of our sakes - I hope you find a different career path to take. If not, I hope you saved my post above to read over while you’re sitting hot reserve in Charlotte and end up working back to back 4 day trips with 1 day off in between. But hey, at least you’ll have your sign on bonus, amirite?
#148
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No hot reserve. It may technically be allowed, but the company doesn’t do it, and our reserve/rest rules pretty much prevent it. I’ve never done it and don’t know anybody who has.
It is in there they can use it when they chose.
And yet they don't, and have said they have no intention of doing it because it's not cost effective.
No junior manning
excellent
minimum 2 days off between trips unless waived by the pilot
only applies to line-holders. Restricts you from bidding to have your trips back to back to expand your days off block.
Also applies to RAPs. You have to waive single days off. Nobody is forcing you to waive it or not waive it. It provides maximum flexibility.
No fewer than 2 separate blocks of 3+ days off per bid period, unless waived. Pilot can choose to make that a single block of 6 days off if he/she wants.
If your trips were bid stacked, then you could get 4 or 5 days off in a row without having to trade.
So providing an additional means of getting something is bad? Got it.
Rental car provided on long overnights
long overnight is i belive 30+ hours, not caused by irregular ops (these long layovers are a waste of your time).
26 hours, regardless of IROPS. I've gotten multiple rental cars. Also, we get paid a min day on our standover days, so not sure it's a waste of time to actually be able to go explore while getting paid to do it.
Uber/taxi provided if hotel shuttle takes longer than 30 min.
All airlines have this
I don't believe that's accurate.
Daytime hotels provided if we have a 5+ hour sit
five hiyr sits are unproductive waste of time.
And yet they happen everywhere. They suck, none of us like them, but they're a fact of life.
Flight benefits on all 3 legacy carriers with zed agreements on almost all the internationals.
Standby (for a yearly fee) on all 3 legacy carries after their own and wholly own go. So in other words a famiky of 4 or 5 on vacation better buy confirmed seats. All other carriers have zed which is also standyby for a fee.
Non-revving is nowhere near as hard as you make it sound. We have substantially more flexibility. I'm not going to say it's inherently worth more, but it's definitely nice to have all three when IROPS exist.
Ability to drop/pick up trips, red pay, etc.
Common with all regionals. Even black pay.
Super bowl sunday is a paid holiday.
Not all, but some have this holiday included.
While we don’t get commuter hotels, we are able to list for unused company reserved hotels for free on a first come, first served basis.
Very rarely approved in nyc
Actually NYC is one of the places the company tends to have extra rooms regularly.
block or better pay, with 4:12 min daily credit.
Most regionals have this.
Extra pay for dealing with customs while flying international
most regionals have this
i’ve had 17+ scheduled days off the last 3 months and have credited over 110 hours because of our ability to add/drop/adjust our schedules with premium pay. Last month, i dropped a 4 day trip and immediately picked it right back up for 200% pay.
So you are admitting you have to work lots of extra flying because your hourly salary doesn’t support a family living in base on 75 month guarantee.
That's just awful logic, but is pretty on par with the rest of your posts. Some people are willing to work more to make more. Nobody said anything about *having* to.
Life is good at rpa. Compensation package will happen soon enough, and bb is on record as stating we will be the highest compensated regional in the industry. That’s kinda wild for the ceo to say something like that publicly, but that’s where we’re headed.
What does history show the length of time it takes for the company & union to pass a pilot contract. Also, ask the flight attendants how their negotiations are going? Strike soon?
The FAs have no leverage, and never have (except in the Summer of 2021 when they squandered it for a temporary MOU). As for our contract, there's not a snowball's chance in hell it will take as long as it has in the past. Beyond that, not sure what your point is.
Anything else?
It is in there they can use it when they chose.
And yet they don't, and have said they have no intention of doing it because it's not cost effective.
No junior manning
excellent
minimum 2 days off between trips unless waived by the pilot
only applies to line-holders. Restricts you from bidding to have your trips back to back to expand your days off block.
Also applies to RAPs. You have to waive single days off. Nobody is forcing you to waive it or not waive it. It provides maximum flexibility.
No fewer than 2 separate blocks of 3+ days off per bid period, unless waived. Pilot can choose to make that a single block of 6 days off if he/she wants.
If your trips were bid stacked, then you could get 4 or 5 days off in a row without having to trade.
So providing an additional means of getting something is bad? Got it.
Rental car provided on long overnights
long overnight is i belive 30+ hours, not caused by irregular ops (these long layovers are a waste of your time).
26 hours, regardless of IROPS. I've gotten multiple rental cars. Also, we get paid a min day on our standover days, so not sure it's a waste of time to actually be able to go explore while getting paid to do it.
Uber/taxi provided if hotel shuttle takes longer than 30 min.
All airlines have this
I don't believe that's accurate.
Daytime hotels provided if we have a 5+ hour sit
five hiyr sits are unproductive waste of time.
And yet they happen everywhere. They suck, none of us like them, but they're a fact of life.
Flight benefits on all 3 legacy carriers with zed agreements on almost all the internationals.
Standby (for a yearly fee) on all 3 legacy carries after their own and wholly own go. So in other words a famiky of 4 or 5 on vacation better buy confirmed seats. All other carriers have zed which is also standyby for a fee.
Non-revving is nowhere near as hard as you make it sound. We have substantially more flexibility. I'm not going to say it's inherently worth more, but it's definitely nice to have all three when IROPS exist.
Ability to drop/pick up trips, red pay, etc.
Common with all regionals. Even black pay.
Super bowl sunday is a paid holiday.
Not all, but some have this holiday included.
While we don’t get commuter hotels, we are able to list for unused company reserved hotels for free on a first come, first served basis.
Very rarely approved in nyc
Actually NYC is one of the places the company tends to have extra rooms regularly.
block or better pay, with 4:12 min daily credit.
Most regionals have this.
Extra pay for dealing with customs while flying international
most regionals have this
i’ve had 17+ scheduled days off the last 3 months and have credited over 110 hours because of our ability to add/drop/adjust our schedules with premium pay. Last month, i dropped a 4 day trip and immediately picked it right back up for 200% pay.
So you are admitting you have to work lots of extra flying because your hourly salary doesn’t support a family living in base on 75 month guarantee.
That's just awful logic, but is pretty on par with the rest of your posts. Some people are willing to work more to make more. Nobody said anything about *having* to.
Life is good at rpa. Compensation package will happen soon enough, and bb is on record as stating we will be the highest compensated regional in the industry. That’s kinda wild for the ceo to say something like that publicly, but that’s where we’re headed.
What does history show the length of time it takes for the company & union to pass a pilot contract. Also, ask the flight attendants how their negotiations are going? Strike soon?
The FAs have no leverage, and never have (except in the Summer of 2021 when they squandered it for a temporary MOU). As for our contract, there's not a snowball's chance in hell it will take as long as it has in the past. Beyond that, not sure what your point is.
Anything else?
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