This is true; this is why I am sore about the situation. If they're gonna do it, they need to do it right.

 

So force a referendum

 

Right? I know we disagree on the open time pick up. But I truly do believe that at the regional level it doesn't matter for contract negotiations. At RAH they'll simply reassign everyone to cover as much of it as they can. In fact, it could be argued that here picking up open time preserves the bids of lineholders. The only real bargaining power any regional group will ever have is it's ability to entice new hires. That's the only reason the company is hammering out a contract quickly now. I agreed to our work rules and I'll work hard to better my life while I'm here and no one is furloughed.

 

I'm HOPING that a new TA is around the corner. As far as a referendum, there's not enough unity in this pilot group to gain any traction in that area.

 

You can't be serious, right?

If a regional can't cover its flying, the regional is in trouble. If flights start canceling, Delta, United, American - they don't care what the reason is, they just care about the cancelation.

If open time wasn't picked up, the flights wouldn't be staffed, same as new hires not showing up. Either way, its a staffing issue. United ALPA and American APA both had legal judgements against them when open time wasn't picked up and their management successfully argued that the union had a role in the lack of open time being picked up. This of course happened during . . . wait for it . . . negotiations! When you pick-up open time after 8 years of Section 6 negotiations by violating your own CBA for greed, you let your negotiating committee go into the room with nothing.

How convenient that a bunch of RAH CA's can rationalize to themselves that they can pick-up all the open time they want (@ premium pay, a violation of the CBA), but put the onus on the new hire FO's for showing up to class as the reason for a lack of a new CBA.

Incredibly selfish, short-sighted mindset. And coming from the Captains, the ones who lead by example . . . the ones who've been on property for most of the last 8 years of negotiations. Coincidence?

 

Well you're not at the regionals and you clearly don't understand what bargaining power we have. Once again, the only power the regionals will ever have in negotiating, besides a fairy tale strike, is enticing new hires. The onus is completely upon them just like it was on all of us before. The problem is that this isn't learned until after hiring on and being in the game for awhile. Did you by chance read our last TA? The onus for my support lies squarely on the Teamster's shoulders to prove their worthy of my support. Because after many years of negotiating they lost it with that pathetic TA. Walk in our shoes for awhile before you snipe from your high and mighty perch.

 

Don't bother....he'll just talk himself into believing that he's right.

 

This post contains idiocy of so many levels, it's difficult to understand where exactly to start.

Do you understand that your position is that the responsibility for improving the lot of Republic pilots falls on people who don't work here? How in the hell does that make any sense?

Do you really expect every fresh flight school grad to understand the intricacies and history of labor relations at this company when many of our pilots don't even get it?

It's ironic how you claim that others need to educate themselves on such matters when you can't even take the time to understand how open time pickups during this period of negotiations is damaging.

The problem isn't prospective new-hires, it isn't the union, it is people like you complain about their lot in life while actually exacerbating the problem and then projecting blame unto others.

Listen to the people who are telling you that you are acting like a selfish child....they are telling you that for a reason.

 

I'm not like you, I don't complain about my lot in life. And also, unlike you, I can discuss things without turning nasty and attacking the other person. Congratulations on becoming the first member of my ignore list. Adios.

 

A minor correction, I get 200%. I do not pick up open time. When the mood strikes me, I will pickup a call from crew sked and ask for 200%. I get it 25% of the time. Did that for a few months before the $15 was offered.

I work a different job when I can. If the company wants to pay me 350$ to work 5 hours, I am stupid enough to take it since my other job only pays 35-40$ an hour. But hey, you know it all including my situation and my responsibilities.
Insulting fellow pilots shows us how clever you really are congratulations