At the time that envoy guys getting 200% and endevor guys getting $80k /yer , your FO override at $15/hr is not only illegal , but also paves the way for the company to reduce the hourly rate in the future.
Compared to those regionals, you sound like a ***** that offers tricks at the back alley for $20.

 

I would have to agree that the pilots are part of this problem. Some of you will remember when S5 opened the base in Hawaii. The union went to the company and presented a detailed cost of living adjustment for crews based there. The company said thank you very much, but we have volunteers for the base already. The one time the old local 747 tried to do something for the pilots, and got shot in the foot by the very people they were trying to help.

 

Ha! Come check in with us in 12 months and then tell us how "happy you are to be there." After your raped by scheduling over and over or realize no CP there will raise a finger to help you out, for things like weddings, funerals, etc.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

You are correct, kind sirs.
I humbly bow before such superior beings. Anyone else calling scum like me, more choice names, please know that I bow before you too, please feel very nice about yourselves. After all you are saviors and ninjas, Bourne-like even.
I do not belong in your esteemed company. I will do my best to remedy this situation by leaving RAH asap.

Bless God !

----break--break----

Please sirs, how is life on planet me? You have the power. Lots of power. lol. In 8 years, our ninjas and saviors, like Waitingformins, Loon and Seattlepilot, have shown how it should be done. Please do your best to emulate them. One size always fits all. Bow before their superiority. Scum!! They will always have the power to make management bow before them, the only fly in the ointment is newbies like you and idiots like me. How dare you question their tactics. Just give up already. You must be ........... assimilated.

Bless God !

 

Not a 170 driver. I picked this job because: no reserve, an affordable base/no commute and not a heavy 50 seat presence. I have my reasons for being here. And I want to make it better. I'm sorry you feel the need to question and belittle your fellow pilots because you're unhappy with how you have been treated for the last 8+ years.

 

Not belittling you at all man. I think the whole industry is frustrated with your owner/management. Bedford is a complete scumbag for the way he treats his pilots. I just hate to see him get away with it. And he will if pilots keep showing up to work for him. The pendulum has finally started to swing in the pilots favor, so now is the time to start getting compensated fairly. For the record, I don't work for RAH. I hope you guys can get a decent contract done soon.

 

Ok, this is all getting so hilarious so I find a need to drop my own share of knowledge on 3 major points all y'all are making here:

1) "Its those new hires fault we don't have new wadges!"
Ok, funny as that point is, if new hires stopped airlines from getting contracts then the likes of Delta, American, and United would still be on 1908 payscales. Its not the new hires fault, people come here for reasons as various as our base structure, and new contracts can be had in periods of ample and weak labor supply. The sign-on bonus being allowed is a bigger part of our problem than the people taking it.

2) "Its those open time people who are the reason we are still negotiating"
As laughable as point 1, but for a different reason. True, when mainline stands united against opentime during section 6 talks, things happen. Mainline also stands united when its time for work actions to happen, and things happen then too. Like any regional, we stand united for neither. If anyone needs the money or whatever other reason to grab open time, there is no point in judging them. But if said anyone volunteers to help the company with their spare time, they most certianly should not blame anyone else for the lack of a CBA. Both new hires and open time pickups help the company, I don't judge either. But I'd expect between problem and solution, both should understand they are not being part of the solution.

3) "I've been here longer than time and don't dare work my day off!"
Congrats, you deserve a cookie, but humility by definition needs not attention. There are plenty of guys here who didn't come here during talks and don't pick up open time regardless of their personal financial situation. These guys stand on the other side of the problem/solution fence and have made many personal sacrifices for the greater good. While others say "I have to pay my bills/buy food/etc..." These guys may have not made their bill payments, these guys may know what real starvation is. This all to no success because they have sacrificed while others haven't. They have gone without, so that we can all stand divided, not united. These are the real fools, they have done so much because they care, about a group that cares less about them.

Until we stand united in something, we'll all claw over everyone for anything. Regionals by definition are a survival of the fittest cage match with everyone stepping over bodies hoping to be the one seen by the majors. Until we stand for any change, we won't see any change. The real reason for no new CBA is lack of unity, lack of action, and lack of desire. We all merely play are part and hope change will magically happen. If it doesn't, its somebody elses fault anyway.

 

I respectfully submit that the best contract in the world is not worth the paper upon which it is printed if the union (which is the rank and file, not the Local leadership) is not willing to defend it.

 

Agreed. It's all about the language. If the language is blurry, then it's truly not worth the paper it's written on. If the language is good, the unity mentality will set in across the board.
One question though: if the local leadership has no part, then why have elections?

 

Good luck.