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FollowMe , 12-06-2018 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster

Or maybe I’m trolling you because you are easily worked up....

ULCC that’s who you fly for. Not Delta, Not United. Heck you don’t even fly for the likes of Alaska or Jet Blue. You are a ULCC. That IS a different class of airline.

I’m not saying the deal is good, but you have to at least know where you start first.

Discount pilots take a discount contract. Don’t be a discount pilot.

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Trowserchilli , 12-06-2018 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster

ULCC that’s who you fly for. Not Delta, Not United. Heck you don’t even fly for the likes of Alaska or Jet Blue. You are a ULCC. That IS a different class of airline.
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Yup. A ULCC which has a higher profit margin than every carrier you mentioned above.

#3993

tomgoodman , 12-06-2018 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster

Or maybe I’m trolling you because you are easily worked up.....

Please reconsider that plan before you get an infraction. Thanks.

#3994

Yabadaba , 12-06-2018 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey

Before someone coined the ULCC term, there was the LCC title. Southwest Airlines championed that phrase with their low fares. They did this while paying their employees industry leading wages and benefits. SWA pilots NEGOTIATED that while being an LCC.

Not sure how far back your talking about but prior to 9/11 their pay was well below industry average. Being profitable thanks to product quality, fuel hedges, market etc helped them get ahead of everyone.

#3995

flycrj200 , 12-06-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

I really hope I get the opportunity to hand in my badge to this place because I'm leaving for a legacy. I cant wait for the "but we got a new contract" and "you'll upgrade soon" lines from the CPO.

This place is nothing more but a fancy regional with 320s... and it never will be.

What's your date of hire? I'm hoping to move up and upgrade! Thanks.

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Planepirate , 12-06-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

A little dramatic aren’t we? How many regional captains do you know who make more than $200 per hour? How many people do you know that make over $200k per year? “Lots of people” you say?... yeah... they’re called doctors (tommy boy). Let’s not pretend that this is some crap job with crap pay. Does this TA bring you into the pattern close enough to vote yes? Then vote yes. If you think it falls short then vote no. The “sky is falling” sob story is annoying.

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ToddChavez , 12-06-2018 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugatu

5.7 million in 2016 says he does. And that was during those horrible “challenging economic times”

And what’s his % stake in the company?

All ya gotta do is look at the S-1 filing....

Do some research... Most of that 5.7 million was stock option awards that he never received.

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WaterRooster , 12-06-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli

Yup. A ULCC which has a higher profit margin than every carrier you mentioned above.

Absolutely. You are correct. Catch is that we are still different.
We cater to a diffeeent class of client. Out airplanes, while yes they are the same, are configured for the type of client we carry. Our owners are only in it for the cash, not for pride of service or any thing close. We are a different class of airline. ULTRA LOW COST. The only airline we can compare ourselves is Spirit. Hence the Spirit contract.

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Gary et al , 12-06-2018 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster

What are you?

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WaterRooster , 12-06-2018 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary et al

What are you?

I like to identify as a bloodhound.

Is what I said wrong some how?