Min calendar day helps everyone, including the furloughed pilots.

So we don't have to change the worlds calendars. How about a day begins at 12:01am and ends at midnight?
None of this getting in at 11:59am and it counting as the previous day. 😲

It's not that simple. Everyone wants the furloughed guys to get LOS. They got shafted for a long time.

However, the issue is that it seems management is now drawing a line in the sand over the LOS issue and saying no more stuff fixed outside of section 6.

As a result we won't get min calendar day fixed. That's the issue we have. I doubt APA could predict it would lead to this but it looks like that's what happened.

I'm sure the furloughees would much rather have min calendar day over LOS, just like the rest of the pilot group.

Come 2020 we have to remember we are all on the same team. There's no more east, west, TWA, nAAtives, senior, junior, furloughees, third listers, fourth listers, whatever. If we forget that and don't unify expect to get hosed, again.

If that is the case I suspect we will continue to see new hire pilots leave AA for other majors as our contract is not industry leading. If they really intend on KDA then they should make improvements to the contract that really do KDA.

I doubt it. Some would go from year 2 to 12, a $50 an hour raise. Year 3 to 12 is a $30 an hour raise. That beats min calendar day for them. I want them to get it. They've been kicked in the balls, particularly TWA guys.

I don't think there are many guys who are on second year pay. The guys who are bypassed recall forever so they had pretty good jobs somewhere else. But I'm sure those guys would rather have LOS.

For most furloughees I'd say it's a $10-15/hr raise. That's a significant amount of money but not huge.

WE WERE FURLOUGHED!!! Most of us went back and flew for the military anyways. WTF.

I know you were furloughed. I said you all deserve to have LOS restored.

I was just pointing out the unintended consequences of the push for LOS.

Chill out. Same team braj

Sorry dude, our union makes me nuts.

They drive me nuts too, but still better than USAPA. I'm not sure yet if better than ALPA. If they get Min gaurantee and better disability insurance before the next contract I'll be more in favor of them, but that doesn't seem to be their focus. I think they're cutting their own throats and may not be here long term.