12-31-2017Quote:
Current
3 days ground - 12 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - 6 hrs
2 days sim - 8 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - estimated 6 hrs
Total = 32 hrs credit
Proposed LOA
2 days distance learning - 10 hrs
1 day recurrent ground - 4 hrs
2 days sim - 8 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - estimated 6 hrs
Total = 28 hrs credit
In both of these scenarios, we are assuming that all of the training would be scheduled on days off. However, in the case that training is scheduled over a trip, it is possible (and in fact more likely) that you will credit more under the new LOA as the 10 hrs for distance learning always goes above your line value. In the case that recurrent was scheduled over a trip, you would only be guaranteed the greater of the trip or training event. My captain and I were doing the math and figured out that he would have actually credited more hours under the new LOA for his training event this month than he did under the current system.
If you take the DHDs out of the equation (applicable to FLL and now LAS crews) you actually credit more under the new distance learning agreement.
I knew somebody would beat me to this math. Also it is not just LAS that will be doing ground school in domicile. Its going to be the whole airline, from what was reported. So the DHD pay is going away and you will be on the hook for hotels if you commute. The LOA is not perfect. I'd like to see it perfect. However given the information I have I will be voting yes, but that's just me. In no way shpuld you feel coerced into voting yes or no. Just please for the love of all things good call a rep before you vote.Originally Posted by WelcomeToBen
Here's a breakdown of what you would credit under the current training system vs the distance learning LOA. Assuming in both cases the training is scheduled on days off.Current
3 days ground - 12 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - 6 hrs
2 days sim - 8 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - estimated 6 hrs
Total = 32 hrs credit
Proposed LOA
2 days distance learning - 10 hrs
1 day recurrent ground - 4 hrs
2 days sim - 8 hrs
DHD (to/from training @ 50% DHD) - estimated 6 hrs
Total = 28 hrs credit
In both of these scenarios, we are assuming that all of the training would be scheduled on days off. However, in the case that training is scheduled over a trip, it is possible (and in fact more likely) that you will credit more under the new LOA as the 10 hrs for distance learning always goes above your line value. In the case that recurrent was scheduled over a trip, you would only be guaranteed the greater of the trip or training event. My captain and I were doing the math and figured out that he would have actually credited more hours under the new LOA for his training event this month than he did under the current system.
If you take the DHDs out of the equation (applicable to FLL and now LAS crews) you actually credit more under the new distance learning agreement.
