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Old 11-30-2014, 04:41 AM   #8921  
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I dunno, usually cheap gas leads to overcapacity which always precludes the industry's death spiral. I hope I'm wrong but capacity discipline has been mentioned a number of times as a main reason for large profits. I'm sure (I hope) Im wrong but we'll see
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I dunno, usually cheap gas leads to overcapacity which always precludes the industry's death spiral. I hope I'm wrong but capacity discipline has been mentioned a number of times as a main reason for large profits. I'm sure (I hope) Im wrong but we'll see
No, you're exactly right, capacity discipline is what's driving a good portion of the profits we're seeing in the airline industry. Operating costs are lower, ticket prices are increased and airlines make money. I don't think with cheaper gas this time you'll see an increase in capacity. Delta for example has some of the oldest planes in the industry, I think you'll see them gradually lower the average age of their fleet, that's the type of improvements I'm talking about. The days of 12 flights a day from ATL to LIT with an MD-80 are over.
But, cheaper gas is not going to lead to lower ticket prices, if anything ticket prices will slightly increase as a whole. There will be gimmicks like Delta's ultra value tickets, but not wholesale lowering of ticket prices. Competition has pretty much been stabilized amongst the big carriers with only SEA in contention, and that's not even a battle between large legacy carriers.
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Old 11-30-2014, 06:02 AM   #8923  
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Seeking Alpha article on SAVE.

Spirit Airlines Still Has Plenty Of Room To Grow - Spirit Airlines (NASDAQ:SAVE) | Seeking Alpha
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Seeking Alpha is a little bit late to the party, but the article is correct. $SAVE does have room to grow, but the growth Spirit is going to experience is different from the growth expected of American, Delta and United (although no one in their right mind would be holding UAL stock), the legacies growth will be in revenue and profit, not in capacity. Big difference between the two.
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:12 AM   #8925  
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Does anyone know how we can list on American? I used to use ifc.id90, but that no longer allows it?? Or maybe I'm missing something?
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:34 AM   #8926  
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I don't think Off line guys can, you just have to show up
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I don't think Off line guys can, you just have to show up
Way to feed him to the wolves. American is the absolute last airline you want to just show up to. Since I don't commute anymore I'm not sure of any possible new procedure for listing if it's not on the id site but I can assure you you don't just show up.
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Go to www.myidtravel.com/myidlisting
enter *** for user and *** for password. Should be good to go

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Way to feed him to the wolves. American is the absolute last airline you want to just show up to. Since I don't commute anymore I'm not sure of any possible new procedure for listing if it's not on the id site but I can assure you you don't just show up.
.....and that's precisely why I said, "I think", not Im 100% certain
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Go to www.myidtravel.com/myidlisting
enter ****** for user and *** for password. Should be good to go
You should really take this down, it's not meant for public knowledge.

Anyone can list if you have that code.

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