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Old 09-27-2015, 06:40 AM   #13921  
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Did everyone miss the foreshadowing in the previous neg update? Things are great... sooner than later... we are really close... btw, this could change at any time. The 'this could change' obviously was the message, the rest was fluff.

Welcome to all of those finally realizing we are looking at C2020.

I still think C2008 is a complete train wreck, and the DL loa proved this NC learned nothing from their '08 loss. I don't get why people think they will miraculously be cured of their rectal-cranial inversion.
I'm glad you see it Ramrod. The NC has their team posting on here trying to keep our head in the sand. C2020 sounds about right.
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Old 09-27-2015, 08:00 AM   #13922  
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I was one o' the guys with optimism flowing out of his butt. Not a stooge by the NC, don't even know em, but I figured they might know a little bit of what theyre doing. Now I'm not so sure. The sunshine and rainbows, unicorns and cute puppies I thought about this contract are dead. Dead puppies, remember that song? Anywho, the training loa, the stepping all over the contract during the irop (with nothing more than a brief thanks and promises of making good) and now the substantial differences between sides makes me think you guys were right all along. It's not even about the pay and retirement it sounds like the issues are with scope, merger protection and health care. That tells me everything about where this management team is looking to take us.

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Old 09-27-2015, 08:53 AM   #13923  
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After this news I wonder how many that are/were on the fence will start up their airline apps account again?
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Old 09-27-2015, 09:48 AM   #13924  
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Jesus, a "disagreement" = end of the world, good thing the majority wasn't here when Ben said one week of cash left, when negotiations REALLY weren't going anywhere, and a strike to cherry the turd cake.

Relax, give it time.
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Old 09-27-2015, 09:57 AM   #13925  
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Jesus, a "disagreement" = end of the world, good thing the majority wasn't here when Ben said one week of cash left, when negotiations REALLY weren't going anywhere, and a strike to cherry the turd cake.

Relax, give it time.
MM has been given SEVEN years Sailor. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! This one is on Mat yu s . Or on you if you insist on being fooled.
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:08 AM   #13926  
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Here's what will happen. It will drag out for a year or two, then the merger will be announced and we will start all over, while being whipsawed with the Fronteir group, lol. Can't wait!
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:16 AM   #13927  
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I think it's more the fact that we keep hearing we're close, that we had the "goodwill" from the company due to the irop, that Delta received a TA early and SWA, FedEx and others are getting TAs that we're anxious. We were told that starting early was a good thing, that certain groundwork would be laid by starting early, prior to the amendable date. We just haven't seen the results of it yet. The latest email from the nc seemed to have an ominous tone and same with the latest MEC chairman's update. That and all the unity building meetings have me a little worried. I'm not ready to say I'm updating my delta app, but I'm quietly updating my delta app. Think I'll throw one in at United while I'm at it, just to see if those big fish are biting. I'm sure others are doing the same thing.
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:36 AM   #13928  
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^ good points and Good luck, with all the "Flows" it's pretty hard to get a call from Delta & AA.

Hopefully they schedule another date soon for negotiations
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Here's what will happen. It will drag out for a year or two, then the merger will be announced and we will start all over, while being whipsawed with the Fronteir group, lol. Can't wait!
I swear I've seen this movie before.
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Old 09-27-2015, 11:03 AM   #13930  
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And in the mean time make sure to continue picking up open time, taxiing at 30kts, and waiting til you get to a mx base to write stuff up. We gotta keep these margins.
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