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Old 09-27-2015, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro View Post
MM has been given SEVEN years Sailor. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! This one is on Mat yu s . Or on you if you insist on being fooled.
Ok, pointless to keep dragging az about this.
All I'm saying, whoever is in the NC, they stand up to CO in important issues, I'm ok with it, I can wait for more negotiations.
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:09 PM
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Tin-foil hats in high gear I see! Rainbows, you remind me of my kids with your need for instant gratification. Management starts to pull the same sh*t as last time (no-showing) and some how that's the nc's fault?! They stand up to management (doing there jobs) and now you are "now seeing what the handful of morons around here are talking about"?! GMAFB! And what does Matyas have to do with the training LOA. WE the pilot group voted it in! If you want something to worry about, imagine what the company thinks of our strength as a group when they read this board!
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:28 PM
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Let's not forget that the negotiators on the other side of the table are seasoned professionals. Negotiating is a game of wits and they are much better at it than [we] are. What is happening now is just a tactic. It perplexes me that so many of us say we won't vote for a contract that is not at least equal to our peers, but when the NC refuses to put to vote a contract that does not meet our requirements, many of us think they are not doing their job, or are somehow weak. Which is it guys? Do we just want a quick vote on a contract that does not meet all of our goals or do we want to be patient and get the contract we believe we deserve? I wish we could have it both ways but it seems obvious that is not going to happen.
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby View Post
Tin-foil hats in high gear I see! Rainbows, you remind me of my kids with your need for instant gratification. Management starts to pull the same sh*t as last time (no-showing) and some how that's the nc's fault?! They stand up to management (doing there jobs) and now you are "now seeing what the handful of morons around here are talking about"?! GMAFB! And what does Matyas have to do with the training LOA. WE the pilot group voted it in! If you want something to worry about, imagine what the company thinks of our strength as a group when they read this board!
No Tin-foil hats here. Little by little the new guys here are catching on. We werent here in 2010 to see that clown show so its been a slow learning curve.

Matyas had everything to do with the Training LOA. They tied the DL LOA together with the iPad deal even though one had nothing to do with the other. Some people actually thought a 'yes' vote meant they would be getting iPads.

It was a test to see if the new guys would eat out of Matyas' hands. They were fooled but now are catching on.

Time to get those clowns out of there. They are not skillful or honest.
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby View Post
Tin-foil hats in high gear I see! Rainbows, you remind me of my kids with your need for instant gratification. Management starts to pull the same sh*t as last time (no-showing) and some how that's the nc's fault?! They stand up to management (doing there jobs) and now you are "now seeing what the handful of morons around here are talking about"?! GMAFB! And what does Matyas have to do with the training LOA. WE the pilot group voted it in! If you want something to worry about, imagine what the company thinks of our strength as a group when they read this board!
You're an NC apologist poppa chubby we get it, they can do no wrong. I was talking about the way mgmt is handling the negotiations. And let me ask you, who negotiated that loa? I think I hear the NC calling you still got your knee pads on?
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs View Post
^ good points and Good luck, with all the "Flows" it's pretty hard to get a call from Delta & AA.

Hopefully they schedule another date soon for negotiations
I'm not going anywhere, delta and AA wouldn't hire me. BUT, I'd be real surprised if we don't start seeing some guys head for the door shortly.
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Old 09-27-2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby View Post
And what does Matyas have to do with the training LOA. WE the pilot group voted it in!
Notice how fast Pappachubby disassociates Matyas from the DL LOA. WE did it to our selves. Well folks I think it is about time WE put a stop to this self serving NC.
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Old 09-27-2015, 04:42 PM
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In this instance, "their" would have been appropriate.



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Old 09-27-2015, 05:45 PM
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And in the mean time make sure to continue picking up open time, taxiing at 30kts, and waiting til you get to a mx base to write stuff up. We gotta keep these margins.
You forgot to add.. Accepting that earlier reserve assignment for MUP, nothing more.. Until we quit bailing them out, there's no reason for a contract..
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Old 09-27-2015, 05:52 PM
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