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Old 02-06-2015, 04:40 PM
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At least they didn't shut down the wrong one and dump it in a river. Then they would be called heroes?
Kudos to the crew on this one.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92 View Post
At least they didn't shut down the wrong one and dump it in a river. Then they would be called heroes?
Kudos to the crew on this one.
Thats a good point. Im sure if you asked that ATR crew if they would ever shut down the wrong engine they would reply "Heck no" (or something like that in their language).

Good job to the crew. MX, hmmmm, still want to see what the report says about that
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:56 PM
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They're gonna need the crumb buster to clean that engine up.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
Never saw you as a pull up the ladder kind of guy
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Yeah, sorry Joey, but I disagree with the "the company needs to raise it". They don't have to raise it. There will always be regional FOs wanting to come here, and it fills the seats for the company.

I'm going to want competent FOs flying with me in 5 years and I'm more than willing to make sure we do what we can to attract quality, the best we can. Because the company will just continue to promise fast upgrades and pull Riddle kids way before raising the pay on their own.
Im not a pull up the ladder type of guy at all, but let the burden be on the company. It will be advantageous for them to raise first year pay. It will help their bottom line. That's all Im saying
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
By (anonymous) on Friday, Feb 6th 2015 20:00Z

"But why the Crew Advanced the Trottes to TOGA Position after a EGT and N2 exceedance? They wanted to kill the Engine like this?"


Incident: Spirit A319 at Dallas on Oct 15th 2013, contained engine failure

This looks bad for the crew. It may get ugly.
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
What do you do when you have an engine problem on takeoff? Verify TOGA? What did you learn when you have engine problem and you were getting your multi engine rating? Firewall it right?

When I have problems at altitude I like to stare at the problem for 10 sec before touching anything. Who knows though what anyone would have done in this situation. I can certainly see toga as in the realm of possibilities.

Safe landing with a fire in weather with no damage except the engine and no lives lost. BRAVO!!!
It looks like they got the Overlimit ECAM at FL190, went TOGA then 4-minutes later the engine went?, at least that's how I'm reading it.

Anyway, take a look at 3.70.19 in the EMERGENCY/ABNORMAL

I'm not playing Monday morning qtrback, just trying to understand sequence of events
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice View Post
Forget what any anonomous poster on the comment section thinks.

Have you seen the ECAM printout for this event?

Crew got the plane safely on the ground and no one was hurt. Better question is why a plane was flying around with "stress corrosion cracking?" Im not a A&P, but that sounds like something that should be inspected routinely.
Agreed. The ECAM list would have taken longer to read then to land the plane. Another NK hit peice.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs View Post
That's not true, those with less invested have an easier decision if offered another job, not the same decision when you have a few years in
Really. Have you asked any of our new hires who are in there 50's and don't have much time left?
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?

Why does it matter?
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?
This is irrelevant. So if, and I have no idea, they were a 2.5 year "newbie" this would mean something?

US Airways Flight 1702 had a crew of close to 10,000 hours Airbus time between the two if them and neither knew the incorrect takeoff data was loaded and neither knew to push to TOGA, instead the non-"newbie" CA replied "We'll get that straight when we get airborne."
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