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02-05-2015 | 01:19 PM
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-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
02-05-2015 | 02:33 PM
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02-05-2015 | 02:37 PM
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I'm glad they are comparing us to the larger carriers this time. Last time our peer group was weaker. The comparisons were good, but they missed a couple points in the company's favor.
-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
02-05-2015 | 02:40 PM
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Let's remember that the 34 percent is misleading as well. At the top of our scale there is only about an 11 percent variance. The big disparities are on the bottom of the scale
02-05-2015 | 02:43 PM
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02-05-2015 | 02:48 PM
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02-05-2015 | 02:52 PM
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02-05-2015 | 02:55 PM
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I think it is titled correctly. There are many pilots here who have no idea how far behind we are with pay, where the industry has gone and that 9% match is not great, neither is a 15 year pay scale. I cant believe how many guys think a 15 year pay scale is better than a 12, "Well I should still see raises years 13-15," having no idea that our 15 year rate would be our 12 year rate.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
I hope they print up nice pretty copies of these and post them in those pretty ALPA bulletin board cases in the crewroom. They can entitle it your third suggestion
02-05-2015 | 03:09 PM
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If only there was a way to find that out BEFORE you applied. Must have been a huge shock when the checks started rolling in 
Seriously, the pay scale needs improvement all over especially the lower longevity. You have your chance to change that now, but to say you are getting f'd is a little over the top. You knew the rates when you started, and you knew the amendable date, and the company's history on dragging out negotiations. Did you bring up this "F'ing" at the interview?
Seriously, the pay scale needs improvement all over especially the lower longevity. You have your chance to change that now, but to say you are getting f'd is a little over the top. You knew the rates when you started, and you knew the amendable date, and the company's history on dragging out negotiations. Did you bring up this "F'ing" at the interview?
02-05-2015 | 03:12 PM
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If only there was a way to find that out BEFORE you applied. Must have been a huge shock when the checks started rolling in
Seriously, the pay scale needs improvement all over especially the lower longevity. You have your chance to change that now, but to say you are getting f'd is a little over the top. You knew the rates when you started, and you knew the amendable date, and the company's history on dragging out negotiations. Did you bring up this "F'ing" at the interview?
Seriously, the pay scale needs improvement all over especially the lower longevity. You have your chance to change that now, but to say you are getting f'd is a little over the top. You knew the rates when you started, and you knew the amendable date, and the company's history on dragging out negotiations. Did you bring up this "F'ing" at the interview?
We all knew the pay when we signed up and if anyone took $38.50 x 72 hours and expected or planned for more, they're a fool.
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