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02-05-2015 | 03:17 PM
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02-05-2015 | 04:52 PM
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The more I think about the more I think some of us are being pretty harsh. Comparing our current rates to the recently ratified legacy rates is like comparing a 2015 corvette ZO6 to a early 2000s C5 ZO6. CALS 1st year rate was $29/hr when our current contract was signed.
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
02-05-2015 | 06:39 PM
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The more I think about the more I think some of us are being pretty harsh. Comparing our current rates to the recently ratified legacy rates is like comparing a 2015 corvette ZO6 to a early 2000s C5 ZO6. CALS 1st year rate was $29/hr when our current contract was signed.
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
02-05-2015 | 06:49 PM
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You see the new cayman GT4?. It's awesome!
02-05-2015 | 07:09 PM
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Mega-Awesome!
It's a long YouTube video, but the exhaust sounds at the end make it all worth it!
http://youtu.be/lGVWojMMeg4
It's a long YouTube video, but the exhaust sounds at the end make it all worth it!
http://youtu.be/lGVWojMMeg4
02-05-2015 | 07:23 PM
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Anyone see that cayman with the carbon hood in the fll lot. Must be a delta or American pilot according to our pay comparison
02-06-2015 | 06:19 AM
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I think it is titled correctly. There are many pilots here who have no idea how far behind we are with pay, where the industry has gone and that 9% match is not great, neither is a 15 year pay scale. I cant believe how many guys think a 15 year pay scale is better than a 12, "Well I should still see raises years 13-15," having no idea that our 15 year rate would be our 12 year rate.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
You are right Juice. A 12 year pay scale is industry standard. Why should guys wait for 3 extra years to get the top rate?
02-06-2015 | 06:44 AM
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The more I think about the more I think some of us are being pretty harsh. Comparing our current rates to the recently ratified legacy rates is like comparing a 2015 corvette ZO6 to a early 2000s C5 ZO6. CALS 1st year rate was $29/hr when our current contract was signed.
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
Patience everyone, pattern bargaining remember
Maybe a better analogy for those who have no clue what letters like C5 and ZO6 mean, it's like an IPhone 1 compared to an IPhone 6
Not to diminish the sense of urgency in getting some while the get is getting got industry wide, doe.
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02-06-2015 | 08:36 AM
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Quite true, but the prospective new hires that read this thread over recent years could very well have expected that $38.50 x 120 was easy to do.
02-06-2015 | 08:53 AM
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"We all knew the pay when we signed up and if anyone took $38.50 x 72 hours and expected or planned for more, they're a fool."
For a Major ULCC to pay that low first year just isn't right. That has to be fixed.
For a Major ULCC to pay that low first year just isn't right. That has to be fixed.
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