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Old 03-06-2013 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I hope it doesn't have anything to do with the law that says that you need to publish the full ticket price upfront . . .
Sorry to dash your hopes, but it does.

Spirit, Allegiant, and Southwest are suing the DOT over the rule that requires you publish the cost of an airline ticket to include all the taxes and fees that the government collects. Other than gas, prices in the US never include all the taxes and fees, so why should airlines be singled out? While Allegiant and Southwest are laying low, Spirit is engaged in a much more public campaign.

That said, Spirit passing on their low costs to their consumers in the form of low fares is not all lip service. When the FAA was unable to collect their taxes during the 2011 'government shutdown', Spirit returned the extra $ they had collected to their passengers, rather than pocketing it for themselves. I believe the only other airline to do so was Alaska.
Old 03-06-2013 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
Sorry to dash your hopes, but it does.

Spirit, Allegiant, and Southwest are suing the DOT over the rule. While Allegiant and Southwest are laying low, Spirit is engaged in a much more public campaign.

That said, its not all lip service. Bash Spirit all you want, but, when the FAA was unable to collect their taxes during the 2011 'government shutdown', Spirit returned the extra $ they had collected to their passengers, rather than pocketing it for themselves. I believe the only other airline to do so was Alaska.
Well heaven forbid the consumer see the full price of what they are about to buy.

All the other airlines are onboard with the idea. It's fair for the consumers to see and know.
Old 03-06-2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Well heaven forbid the consumer see the full price of what they are about to buy.
Which is why I edited my post to add clarity.

Do you troll restaurant forums to protest why your menu didn't have the taxes included in the choices too?
Old 03-06-2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
Which is why I edited my post to add clarity.

Do you troll restaurant forums to protest why your menu didn't have the taxes included in the choices too?


He is a total waste of time, and I hear he is like that in person as well. Neds, dont feed him. He'll go away.
Old 03-06-2013 | 04:03 PM
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Been hearing rumors of ORD for about 2 years, but what would that have to do with publishing awards in a timely manner? Or the lawsuit for that matter?
Old 03-06-2013 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
Been hearing rumors of ORD for about 2 years, but what would that have to do with publishing awards in a timely manner? Or the lawsuit for that matter?
It has nothing to do with the lawsuit - that's just a guy on this forum stirring the pot.

If there was/is a plan to introduce a vacancy bid for ORD, that would also potentially increase costs further, especially if you're being forced to pay for reductions in DTW when you could get some DTW guys to voluntarily bid ORD, if you announced ORD first. That's my best guess for the 're: ORD' angle - its a long shot, at best.

Of course, that might look like a 'win' for Spirit ALPA, so, there's the cost of that too to consider.
Old 03-06-2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
Been hearing rumors of ORD for about 2 years, but what would that have to do with publishing awards in a timely manner? Or the lawsuit for that matter?
It has nothing to do with the lawsuit - that's just a guy on this forum stirring the pot.

If there was/is a plan to introduce a vacancy bid for ORD, that would also potentially increase costs further, especially if you're being forced to pay for reductions in DTW when you could get some DTW guys to voluntarily bid ORD, if you announced ORD first. That's my best guess for the 're: ORD' angle - its a long shot, at best.

Of course, that might look like a 'win' for Spirit ALPA, so, there's the cost of that too to consider.
That's what I thought! Like LAS and DFW, announce, crew the base, let voluntary ppl take it, then make the move in DTW, obviously this wasn't thought thoroughly, but who knows, crime of passion I guess!
Old 03-06-2013 | 07:07 PM
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He is a total waste of time, and I hear he is like that in person as well. Neds, dont feed him. He'll go away.
So someone you disagree with is suddenly a total waste of time. This coming from a guy who loves his management despite they slap in the face they threw at you in regards to KCM. Don't drink that KoolAid too hard.

And "unintended government consequence fee." Give me a break. Thankfully there is a law that says the prices including all taxes and fees must be disclosed.
Old 03-07-2013 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
And "unintended government consequence fee." Give me a break. Thankfully there is a law that says the prices including all taxes and fees must be disclosed.
......then it should be that way for all "goods and services rendered", not just the airlines. Automobiles, housing, food, clothing etc etc etc. should all be that way as well??

Don't just single-out the airlines.
Old 03-07-2013 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shiftwork
......then it should be that way for all "goods and services rendered", not just the airlines. Automobiles, housing, food, clothing etc etc etc. should all be that way as well??

Don't just single-out the airlines.
Thats actually how it works in most developed countries outside the US...
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