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02-05-2015, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
As soon as you walked in. So everyone that comes and goes walks right through the area.
I will say, Im not 100% sure if it was approved or what but a lot of guys did CBTs there, so?, Im not sure
I will say, Im not 100% sure if it was approved or what but a lot of guys did CBTs there, so?, Im not sure
Well shoot. Maybe I'm just behind the times
02-05-2015, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
Did the ntsb issue a final report?
02-05-2015, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jett i son
Just read it^
Good info.
I am embarrassed to post the pay disparity ...
Poster mentioned 34% offer by company and keep the rules as is.
That should be the base.
Good info.
I am embarrassed to post the pay disparity ...
Poster mentioned 34% offer by company and keep the rules as is.
That should be the base.
-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
02-05-2015, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Defiantly a step in the right direction
02-05-2015, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
I'm glad they are comparing us to the larger carriers this time. Last time our peer group was weaker. The comparisons were good, but they missed a couple points in the company's favor.
-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
-1 Opportunity for premium pay is not accounted for
-2 Using terms like "Top of scale" and giving it a cute acronym masks the fact that it takes NK 3 years longer to reach "TOS".
-3 Maybe just me, but I found the title "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations" a bit pompous.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
02-05-2015, 02:40 PM
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Let's remember that the 34 percent is misleading as well. At the top of our scale there is only about an 11 percent variance. The big disparities are on the bottom of the scale
02-05-2015, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
Let's remember that the 34 percent is misleading as well. At the top of our scale there is only about an 11 percent variance. The big disparities are on the bottom of the scale
02-05-2015, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I believe the bottom of what you speak are what we are affectionately referred to as "noobs"
02-05-2015, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I believe the bottom of what you speak are what we are affectionately referred to as "noobs"
Noobs be gettn f'd
02-05-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I think it is titled correctly. There are many pilots here who have no idea how far behind we are with pay, where the industry has gone and that 9% match is not great, neither is a 15 year pay scale. I cant believe how many guys think a 15 year pay scale is better than a 12, "Well I should still see raises years 13-15," having no idea that our 15 year rate would be our 12 year rate.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
They can title it "Pilot Education on Contract Negotiations," "A Brief History of Contracts," or "Wake up people, we are close to the bottom"...I dont care. Im glad it is out there and I hope to see more of them.
I hope they print up nice pretty copies of these and post them in those pretty ALPA bulletin board cases in the crewroom. They can entitle it your third suggestion
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