I'm sorry to be blunt, but this is about the dumbest thing I ever read on this board, Android. How clueless can you get?
Based on all your post here, you clearly have some hatred and hostility issues to work out for yourself.
For the rest of us, we support our reps no matter how they voted and we move on in a professional matter, communicating with our reps about how we want them to proceed. However, all of them will have their feet to the fire, explaining how this recall action was necessary at this time.
I am sure they have a rational explanation beyond what we have seen so far. But if they acted out of the sort of anger, hatred, vengeance that you display in your post, they won't last long.

 

What about the Open Time Resolution? Will that be addressed at a later meeting?

 

Anything that stuffs DP back under the rock he came from is a net plus for the pilot group. Do you have any idea how many pilots have been DP'd over the years? The system worked, he had his day in court so to speak as it looks like that motion failed.


I guess we know now why he would rather have 300 phone calls instead of sending out 1 email.

They needed to cut out the cancer now, it already spread to the NC. If I wanted the NC's opinion on MEC governance, I'd elect them as status reps. Beside that, why would you want to stay in a job where 2/3 of your bosses don't want you there? Think about that one.

At what company does the management consult the employees on replacing upper management positions?

Party line? Both of the 77 status reps were former MEC darlings when they were elected.

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Balder

I will be the first to say that recalls are not always the smartest thing to do , especially given our current position.

With that being said, I completely believe that this was the right move for us and for the company. The guys running the MEC were mostly topped out and making some killer money doing the MEC thing. They had no real reason to push for the best contract possible because they are already living a pretty nice life. I'm not saying that is how they thought but their actions seemed to say otherwise, and it could have effected the out come of section 6 significantly.

Additionally, Chris needed a reality check, his actions and words to me personally did not signify him as a leader. Not knowing him on a personal day to day basis its hard to judge him in whole but I strongly believe it was his time to go. If for nothing else we needed some new blood and new ideas.

I feel James is the right man for the job because he has the burning desire to lead and get us on track to be well paid. I think he will get some of our apathetic pilots to get on board to get the best possible contract. We have so many guys here that are more than happy being the lowest paid Airbus pilots, it maddening see our group so divided over what we should or should not be getting paid.

Please give this guy a chance to bring us together and kick some ass!

Cheers

 

I give a new guy a chance but I want to me more than well paid we can have the highest pay in the industry but it doesn't mean anything if our work rules and health ins costs are crap.

 

I just got a text that said they tabled the resolution. Whatever that means...

 

Means it's been delayed until the next MEC meeting.

 

agreed.......

 

I'm beginning to understand that Spirit union pilots do things differently. But what new MEC are you talking about?

A careful read of the union emails from yesterday says that the MEC removed its Chairman and replaced him with another.

Do we at Spirit give the leadership role to our MEC Chairman? We didnt do it that way at brand X.

Ditto to the IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

 

Three MEC officers have stepped down, two were recalled and one resigned. I used the adjective "new" to describe the changes in the MEC.
We can call it the "revised" MEC, it still makes no difference if this "new" MEC does not change our negotiating strategy.
This may have to come from the LEC level.
We need some urgency and spunk from our representatives going into the negotiations, not feeling comfortable with the status quo.

IF NOT NOW, WHEN?