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Old 02-04-2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
So why the loa? If the company can do this then why agree to a loa that is worse for them?
Originally Posted by fly20201
EXACTLY my thought. The company isn't giving us this out of the goodness of their hearts. The LOA gives them more savings and more flexibility than whatever they can do otherwise. What this means for us is less required staffing/longer upgrades. Also, if we vote this in, it sends a very strong message to the company that we are willing to vote in almost anything come contract time, as long as there are sufficient scare tactics employed i.e. commuters having to come to their domicile for GS and pay for hotels if they vote no. I hope our pilot group isn't really this spineless! Come on people!
^^^^ Exactly! Why????^^^^^
Old 02-04-2015 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fly20201
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EXACTLY my thought. The company isn't giving us this out of the goodness of their hearts. The LOA gives them more savings and more flexibility than whatever they can do otherwise. What this means for us is less required staffing/longer upgrades. Also, if we vote this in, it sends a very strong message to the company that we are willing to vote in almost anything come contract time, as long as there are sufficient scare tactics employed i.e. commuters having to come to their domicile for GS and pay for hotels if they vote no. I hope our pilot group isn't really this spineless! Come on people!
I don't know if no or yes will send any message at all, as you well know the Barbie toughbook is coming.
About voting anything IN that our union presents, I don't believe that's true either, we talk of our company's scare tactics but we also spread a good amount of BS ourselves.

Hiring and upgrades will continue as long as we keep getting ACs..the difference between pre/after DL amount of upgrades and hiring it's probably very small.

Btw, I voted no, for my own personal reasons.
Old 02-05-2015 | 05:37 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
Old 02-05-2015 | 07:17 AM
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My last company everything was MEL'd with stickers every where. At Spirit most of the time nothing is MEL'd. The best maintenance I have ever had in aviation.
Old 02-05-2015 | 07:49 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke

Did the ntsb issue a final report?
Old 02-05-2015 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
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Old 02-05-2015 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
Nothing like accurate reporting from a local news affiliate.

All news these days is crap, Brian Wilson will probably claim to have been on that Spirit flight.
Old 02-05-2015 | 08:57 AM
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"Health and cleanliness concerns were also noted. After a September 2014 complaint, inspectors found rats in one aircraft cabin, according to FAA documents."

Awesome.

Imagine if word got out about the FA's new study room

Hard to imagine the FAA would approve anything like this for any recurrent training or training if any kind. Must be for something else.

Are we even a real professional airline?

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Old 02-05-2015 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Nothing like accurate reporting from a local news affiliate.

All news these days is crap, Brian Wilson will probably claim to have been on that Spirit flight.
The Beach Boy?

Gonyon, I might be acting a prude but not sure that's great to be putting here. See thread "The Media Reads APC." We could also add "Litigious Attorneys Read APC."
Old 02-05-2015 | 09:14 AM
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Who ever put this "studyroom" solution together has NO business running an airline as they don't take training seriously which is the bedrock of safety. Wow I am literally shockrd
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