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Old 04-23-2009, 12:17 PM
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Alot of guys are not happy with the fire hose PC Warmup (done entirely in MDE ) and PC after not flying the aircraft for almost a year.
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Alot of guys are not happy with the fire hose PC Warmup (done entirely in MDE ) and PC after not flying the aircraft for almost a year.
Are they not doing any trainer sessions anymore? Being called back after 2 months is one thing, but after 8, and perhaps 1-2 years (for the rest of us) is another. I've looked at some cockpit pictures the other day and I got scared real fast. If I ever get back I am expecting to put in about say 70% of the effort that went into initial. Power point 2-3x, daily memorization of limitations, checklists, flows, flash cards starting 2 weeks prior oral and sim. Read almost the whole darn GOM (or whatever the new thing is called).

So far so good, but above all I was very much hoping for 2-3 lessons in that trainer before even going to Miami. It does not even cost them much to fire the thing up or they did fire sell it already along with the trashcans? I think I could do it without it, but "I think I can" is not the mindset I like to walk into a sim ride or approach my work in this business.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:08 PM
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Wonder where this information about Spirit posted on APC came from:

"Spirit has ordered 20 A320, 24 A319, and 7 current A319 deliveries for a total of 51 additional aircraft."

This is what I know coming directly from BBB's mouth in my recurrent class: total order of 37 new planes. Someone asked, he said it, and I wrote it down. My friend whose cousin works for Airbus told him that 30 were A320's. 7 were undisclosed types.

Airbus disclosed 30 A319's in 2007, which were converted to A320's in early 2008:

Spirit orders 30 A319s

APC's info seems wrong.

Hope to see those planes before 2011, but with a depression on the horizon, who knows....
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:28 AM
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Are they not doing any trainer sessions anymore? Being called back after 2 months is one thing, but after 8, and perhaps 1-2 years (for the rest of us) is another. I've looked at some cockpit pictures the other day and I got scared real fast. If I ever get back I am expecting to put in about say 70% of the effort that went into initial. Power point 2-3x, daily memorization of limitations, checklists, flows, flash cards starting 2 weeks prior oral and sim. Read almost the whole darn GOM (or whatever the new thing is called).

So far so good, but above all I was very much hoping for 2-3 lessons in that trainer before even going to Miami. It does not even cost them much to fire the thing up or they did fire sell it already along with the trashcans? I think I could do it without it, but "I think I can" is not the mindset I like to walk into a sim ride or approach my work in this business.
I totally agree with you Norman, and I also think that we have GREAT instructors, but we have no training facilities along with good tools. Sad but true, I understand that we work for ULCC, but our operation in Latin America is very challenging and we should have the oportunity to practice before getting back on the sim.... I wish I could compare our training with other Low Cost Carriers, but unfortunately I came from a national.

my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer View Post
Wonder where this information about Spirit posted on APC came from:

"Spirit has ordered 20 A320, 24 A319, and 7 current A319 deliveries for a total of 51 additional aircraft."

This is what I know coming directly from BBB's mouth in my recurrent class: total order of 37 new planes. Someone asked, he said it, and I wrote it down. My friend whose cousin works for Airbus told him that 30 were A320's. 7 were undisclosed types.

Airbus disclosed 30 A319's in 2007, which were converted to A320's in early 2008:

Spirit orders 30 A319s

APC's info seems wrong.

Hope to see those planes before 2011, but with a depression on the horizon, who knows....
Not that i believe this, but ..........

When i was down at Airbus in MIA at the end of last week, a friend of ours from the FAA was there observing a checkrides saying that we would be getting airplanes within the next 6 months.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:20 PM
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Not that i believe this, but ..........

When i was down at Airbus in MIA at the end of last week, a friend of ours from the FAA was there observing a checkrides saying that we would be getting airplanes within the next 6 months.
Wow! First the President fires the GM CEO, now the FAA is determining delivery schedule of new aircraft.

I don't believe it either Mr. Poker.
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Not that i believe this, but ..........

When i was down at Airbus in MIA at the end of last week, a friend of ours from the FAA was there observing a checkrides saying that we would be getting airplanes within the next 6 months.
Is this the same FED who said:

- NK is getting A330s (for summer of 2008)
- NK is getting 4 A320s from the desert for December 2008)
- NK is getting 10 A320s from Spain (for spring 2009)
- NK is getting 4 planes from USA3000 (up until June 2009)
- 525 was a total loss
- and finally after screwing up my 3rd temporary license that was about to expire within days: "I will send this field issue with regular mail. You don't need your license anytime soon do you? You are getting furloughed anyways. Right?"... me: "I will try to find work using that license. Like I have been for the pas x years. Please overnight it."

That is right. That guy is an idiot. He should have kept his mouth shut. As an FAA inspector the last thing he is supposed to do is spread insider info.
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:01 PM
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I don't want to be overly picky but whats the deal with the seniority list that came out in an email. Last time I checked a seniority list means EVERYONE who has seniority at Spirit, not just the pilots on properity. Again not trying to make a big deal over such a small thing but what the heck does crew planning do that they can't do part of the job they are supposed to?
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Are they not doing any trainer sessions anymore? Being called back after 2 months is one thing, but after 8, and perhaps 1-2 years (for the rest of us) is another. I've looked at some cockpit pictures the other day and I got scared real fast. If I ever get back I am expecting to put in about say 70% of the effort that went into initial. Power point 2-3x, daily memorization of limitations, checklists, flows, flash cards starting 2 weeks prior oral and sim. Read almost the whole darn GOM (or whatever the new thing is called).

So far so good, but above all I was very much hoping for 2-3 lessons in that trainer before even going to Miami. It does not even cost them much to fire the thing up or they did fire sell it already along with the trashcans? I think I could do it without it, but "I think I can" is not the mindset I like to walk into a sim ride or approach my work in this business.

The FOTM says that if you are not furloughed for over a year all you get is 3 days of ground school, a PC warm up and a PC.

After a year, there is a Requal course.
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The FOTM says that if you are not furloughed for over a year all you get is 3 days of ground school, a PC warm up and a PC.

After a year, there is a Requal course.
Is the re qualification course a full 6 weeks deal or just the full sim? That seems like the other extreme. A few trainer lessons + warm up sim + ride would be plenty.
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