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Quote: If 80 percent of us say "I didn't get screwed too badly," when the SLI is finalized, then it probably is as fair as it can be.
Amen to that!
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No matter what it looks like when it comes out, it cant be any worse than that the Colgan group already has. I imagine it will be better for PNCL as well. Probably the only group that may be effected for the worst would be Mesaba. We all have high hopes for the future. Lets see if once again we will be misled by our management with false promises.
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Quote: Lets see if once again we will be misled by our management with false promises.
and/or our union
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I really don't like comments like this...

Quote: Again, as I've said before, I have nothing against Colgan or Colgan pilots... one has to remember where these planes came from and the history behind them.
Not their fault.


"i have nothing against....buttttt......"

so snide and incinuating, if you have an opinion state it, if not don't waste thread space in a manner illustrating a bad trial lawyer
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Quote: Are you implying that Colgan is an alter-ego carrier? THAT right there is a joke.
In the beginning there was Pinnacle Airlines, inc and only Pinnacle airlines Inc. Pinnacle airlines Corp was formed as a holding company to be Inc's parent and destroy scope, be on NASDAQ etc. all Inc's profits went to Corp. Corp then bought q's and colgan to get around scope to give to even cheaper labor (if that is even possible ). Offices were consolidated in MEM and management shuffled between the 2 (thank God you got BC). even the Govt mediator said so......


still laughing at the joke or would you care to school me since you obviously have more experience at Pinnacle than I do? I admit I'm not always right and I'm open to opinions.....and before the sensitive ones come out of the woodwork, understand this post isn't Colgan pilot bashing, we're all in the same boat, just Cliff Notes history...
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Quote: I really don't like comments like this...

Originally Posted by lolwut
Again, as I've said before, I have nothing against Colgan or Colgan pilots... one has to remember where these planes came from and the history behind them.


Not their fault.


"i have nothing against....buttttt......"

so snide and incinuating, if you have an opinion state it, if not don't waste thread space in a manner illustrating a bad trial lawyer
Knight, you can say that without being snide or insinuating. Look at it this way....Pinnacle Inc pilots are the Dad, Q is the 2010 corvette, Colgan pilots are the 16 year old son....Dad buys vette for his son. Son goes driving around picking up chicks and impressing them and beating everyone he races, brings home a different girl home every night and thinks he is da bomb. Dad then says "remember who is making the payments on that vette son....."
So he still loves his son, just wants to be sure the son is appreciative, just as Pinnacle pilots love Colgan pilots (group hug in the showers).

I think Lowut is just saying dont wave it in Pinnacle pilots faces that Colgan has the Q (and very few do but there are always the few me me me ones or the ones that don't know history) and not be appreciative of the sacrifices of 9e pilots that got Colgan the Q's....
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I understand your point but you should look back a little further than that and answer this question.. Where did pinnacle get their flying from?
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Quote: I understand your point but you should look back a little further than that and answer this question.. Where did pinnacle get their flying from?
Not sure what you are getting at...
Are you trying to start a "its not your flying it's Delta's flying" argument? If you are implying pinnacle got CRJ flying from NWA it can be argued the mainline pilots gave it up in scope and didnt want to fly barbie jets, and to finance their retirement (the sale of 9e from wholly owned by NWA to a publicly traded company). 9e pilots did not have that choice with the q's, we were informed of it by memo after the purchase.
How far back should I look? to '99 when we had like 35 saabs? to end of 2000 when we had the saabs and 10 CRJ's? '95 when there were saabs and Jetstreams? We talking Pinnacle only Or Express Airlines I if anyone even knows what that is? (besides FLYJSH and Juice, respect ) It's not Delta's Q's it's Pinnacle's (corp). The one thing Pinnacle owns, plus the -900's. (someone chime in with the lease company owns them)
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Quote: Are you trying to start a "its not your flying it's Delta's flying" argument?
How far back should I look? to '99 when we had like 35 saabs? to end of 2000 when we had the saabs and 10 CRJ's? '95 when there were saabs and Jetstreams? We talking Pinnacle only Or Express Airlines I if anyone even knows what that is? (besides FLYJSH, respect ) It's not Delta's Q's it's Pinnacle's (corp). The one thing Pinnacle owns. (someone chime in with the lease company owns them)
They're my Qs. I'll let you admire them from afar. Please no touching.
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Quote: Knight, you can say that without being snide or insinuating. Look at it this way....Pinnacle Inc pilots are the Dad, Q is the 2010 corvette, Colgan pilots are the 16 year old son....Dad buys vette for his son. Son goes driving around picking up chicks and impressing them and beating everyone he races, brings home a different girl home every night and thinks he is da bomb. Dad then says "remember who is making the payments on that vette son....."
So he still loves his son, just wants to be sure the son is appreciative, just as Pinnacle pilots love Colgan pilots (group hug in the showers).

I think Lowut is just saying dont wave it in Pinnacle pilots faces that Colgan has the Q (and very few do but there are always the few me me me ones or the ones that don't know history) and not be appreciative of the sacrifices of 9e pilots that got Colgan the Q's....
haha i like your anologies...so what does that make Mesaba... 900's equal that Lamborghini Dad bought to show up his son? Let's race
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