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09-18-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
And since his panties are so twisted, could you imagine if it was an AA airplane
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"Damn regional jets!"
"P*ss off, man"
hahahaha
RJ wanted to wait a little bit longer due to wx/storms/windshear, and even when windshear alerts were gone he wanted 2 minutes. AA wanted him out of the way and just go. Call them out, damn regional jets, and once it's his turn to take the runway, the AA guy screws up a simple readback to line up and wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjq2TcbBVo
09-24-2018, 06:52 PM
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This guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?
09-24-2018, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
This guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?
I took the video and took out the background noise, this is what I could make out to the best of my ability.
If anyone else wants to take a crack at it just download the audio from the video into the sound editor of your choice. I used audacity with a treble cut EQ.
***THIS ARE NOT EXACT QUOTES IT IS WHAT I COULD MAKE OUT AFTER EQUALIZATION***
agent; I have to check. I tried to put you on the standby list.
CA: I wanna wait to see if I can get on. Im skipping you guys.
agent; I cant. I tried to put you on the standby list, I cannot put you on the standby list.
customer: hes in public for god sakes show some respect man. your a pilot dude you work for delta show some respect.
agent; i turn my back for...{unintelligble}
pilot; i wish everyone at skywest had to [sounds like "deal with this for a week"]
pilot: well take a hike?
2:11 [sound similar to hand slamming on desk]
pilot: let me know my options i need you to help me
2:40 pilot: ill take a walk, ill...
pilot: got two of em (possibly referring to number of jumpseats on aircraft)
pilot: well {maybe or then] ill get lost thats what ill do.
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
--from shyguys post
also going onto SGs post she says
agent:I am doing my job the way the company tells me...no it doe not work {like that?}
then gate agent says
that is not allowed...
But still regardless of what I heard on the recording its still def a TOTD move. Remember there are always other flights. THIS is why commuter clauses exist. So crews dont argue or berate gate agents who are just doing their jobs.
09-25-2018, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK
I took the video and took out the background noise, this is what I could make out to the best of my ability.
If anyone else wants to take a crack at it just download the audio from the video into the sound editor of your choice. I used audacity with a treble cut EQ.
***THIS ARE NOT EXACT QUOTES IT IS WHAT I COULD MAKE OUT AFTER EQUALIZATION***
agent; I have to check. I tried to put you on the standby list.
CA: I wanna wait to see if I can get on. Im skipping you guys.
agent; I cant. I tried to put you on the standby list, I cannot put you on the standby list.
customer: hes in public for god sakes show some respect man. your a pilot dude you work for delta show some respect.
agent; i turn my back for...{unintelligble}
pilot; i wish everyone at skywest had to [sounds like "deal with this for a week"]
pilot: well take a hike?
2:11 [sound similar to hand slamming on desk]
pilot: let me know my options i need you to help me
2:40 pilot: ill take a walk, ill...
pilot: got two of em (possibly referring to number of jumpseats on aircraft)
pilot: well {maybe or then] ill get lost thats what ill do.
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
--from shyguys post
also going onto SGs post she says
agent:I am doing my job the way the company tells me...no it doe not work {like that?}
then gate agent says
that is not allowed...
But still regardless of what I heard on the recording its still def a TOTD move. Remember there are always other flights. THIS is why commuter clauses exist. So crews dont argue or berate gate agents who are just doing their jobs.
If anyone else wants to take a crack at it just download the audio from the video into the sound editor of your choice. I used audacity with a treble cut EQ.
***THIS ARE NOT EXACT QUOTES IT IS WHAT I COULD MAKE OUT AFTER EQUALIZATION***
agent; I have to check. I tried to put you on the standby list.
CA: I wanna wait to see if I can get on. Im skipping you guys.
agent; I cant. I tried to put you on the standby list, I cannot put you on the standby list.
customer: hes in public for god sakes show some respect man. your a pilot dude you work for delta show some respect.
agent; i turn my back for...{unintelligble}
pilot; i wish everyone at skywest had to [sounds like "deal with this for a week"]
pilot: well take a hike?
2:11 [sound similar to hand slamming on desk]
pilot: let me know my options i need you to help me
2:40 pilot: ill take a walk, ill...
pilot: got two of em (possibly referring to number of jumpseats on aircraft)
pilot: well {maybe or then] ill get lost thats what ill do.
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
--from shyguys post
also going onto SGs post she says
agent:I am doing my job the way the company tells me...no it doe not work {like that?}
then gate agent says
that is not allowed...
But still regardless of what I heard on the recording its still def a TOTD move. Remember there are always other flights. THIS is why commuter clauses exist. So crews dont argue or berate gate agents who are just doing their jobs.
This is why the Captain should “make the walk” to check for Jumpseaters and standbys. Had that happened, this would have been a non event. Captain comes out, sees pilot, directs agent to print Jumpseat authorization card, case closed.
09-25-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
This is why the Captain should “make the walk” to check for Jumpseaters and standbys. Had that happened, this would have been a non event. Captain comes out, sees pilot, directs agent to print Jumpseat authorization card, case closed.
I have a personal pre-flight checklist which includes, but not limited to:
1) Pre-flight pee (or potty for the easily offended) Check...
2) Coffee, tea, or soda...
3) A walk up the jet way to look for any pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, or other non-rev waiting for a seat...
4) To say goodbye to the gate agents and thank them for what they do...
09-25-2018, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
This....
I have a personal pre-flight checklist which includes, but not limited to:
1) Pre-flight pee (or potty for the easily offended) Check...
2) Coffee, tea, or soda...
3) A walk up the jet way to look for any pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, or other non-rev waiting for a seat...
4) To say goodbye to the gate agents and thank them for what they do...
I have a personal pre-flight checklist which includes, but not limited to:
1) Pre-flight pee (or potty for the easily offended) Check...
2) Coffee, tea, or soda...
3) A walk up the jet way to look for any pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, or other non-rev waiting for a seat...
4) To say goodbye to the gate agents and thank them for what they do...
09-25-2018, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK
The only way you could tell if there were any dispatchers trying to jump is well they dont really have a uniform, they just dress business casual with their id lanyard and passport.
09-25-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
This guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0
Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.
1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"
3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
Personally a Delta agent blocked me from taking one of many many wide open seats due to weight restrictions on a 3 hour A320 flight with no need for an alternate or enroute deviation. Maybe a motor was broke.
The other guy gave the agent a little attitude but I walked away. The Delta pilot that did make the weight cut said "good luck"...captain didn't come up.
09-25-2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ballfreight
10 to 1 that this is Delta "weight restricted" BS issues we have all experienced. BS gets a pilot to act this way. "I've never left guys behind when there are seats in the back".
Personally a Delta agent blocked me from taking one of many many wide open seats due to weight restrictions on a 3 hour A320 flight with no need for an alternate or enroute deviation. Maybe a motor was broke.
The other guy gave the agent a little attitude but I walked away. The Delta pilot that did make the weight cut said "good luck"...captain didn't come up.
Personally a Delta agent blocked me from taking one of many many wide open seats due to weight restrictions on a 3 hour A320 flight with no need for an alternate or enroute deviation. Maybe a motor was broke.
The other guy gave the agent a little attitude but I walked away. The Delta pilot that did make the weight cut said "good luck"...captain didn't come up.
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