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Quote: I would find it very hard to believe that an unbiased computer program would drop this candidates name into the invite group without someone actively going in and doing it.
Probably. But why do any of us want an "unbiased computer program" in the first place? I think its the wrong way to go to almost completely disregard the line pilots in the process in the first place. Yes I realize that "back in the day" it was a little too much who you knew. But now the pendulum has swung WAY too far in the other direction. Several airlines still value line plot recommendations far more than DL does. At least give the pilots a one time rec that carries more weight than a simple app scoring. JMHO.
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Quote: I had a client who had 4 checkride failures at a regional get hired at Delta. Apply online and update your application every 1st of the month. Always try to improve your professional and personal life.

I have also seen guys with a DUI get hired. It is what you do after your mistakes that matters the most. Good luck.
4 checkride failures at a regional? Picked the wrong career.

"It is what you do after your mistakes that matters the most."


True. But at some point, ability should matter. Lets just agree the industry doesn't need the types of CA Colgan 3407.
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Quote: ... I would find it very hard to believe that an unbiased computer program would drop this candidates name into the invite group without someone actively going in and doing it.
Delta doesn’t use a computer program to score applications. They’re scored by people, so maybe that’s how people with failures get invited to an interview while others with few/no busts don’t get invited.

Edit - maybe that’s what you were saying. I’m not sure after re-reading.
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Quote: I know I'm going to get hit with the No one is perfect and they learned from their mistakes crowd, however I find it a little troubling that we have a ton of candidates in our application pool that DO NOT have 4 checkride failures but are not getting the invite to interview. I would find it very hard to believe that an unbiased computer program would drop this candidates name into the invite group without someone actively going in and doing it.
Have to agree here. Not doubting that what the OP wrote, but from a PR point of view, how would Delta explain it to the public if there were an incident/accident involving the pilot who Delta hired with 4 check ride busts, no how matter how insignificant they may seem to you or me. We live in a transparent world where everything is put under a microscope and this would be very difficult to explain away.
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Quote: Probably. But why do any of us want an "unbiased computer program" in the first place? I think its the wrong way to go to almost completely disregard the line pilots in the process in the first place. Yes I realize that "back in the day" it was a little too much who you knew. But now the pendulum has swung WAY too far in the other direction. Several airlines still value line plot recommendations far more than DL does. At least give the pilots a one time rec that carries more weight than a simple app scoring. JMHO.
I agree with everything that you say and I guess my point was missed. The only people that seem to have the ability to go in and have pull with getting a candidate hired now a days work in offices not flight decks. Just my opinion watching hiring go from Plato to present day. 4 busted checkrides at a regional shows a trend to me and I'll stand by my assessment that this guy/gal just jumped over many more candidates that were much more qualified.
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Quote: I agree with everything that you say and I guess my point was missed. The only people that seem to have the ability to go in and have pull with getting a candidate hired now a days work in offices not flight decks. Just my opinion watching hiring go from Plato to present day. 4 busted checkrides at a regional shows a trend to me and I'll stand by my assessment that this guy/gal just jumped over many more candidates that were much more qualified.



Plato Ryan was awesome
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Quote: Plato Ryan was awesome
Plato Rhyne was really awesome too
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What is “competitive” anymore?
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3400 TT
1700 Pt. 121
850 TPIC (current corporate)
Mgr of Safety
Bachelors with high GPA
MBA with high GPA

Would Ed Bastian and company give me the time of day?
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Quote: 3400 TT
1700 Pt. 121
850 TPIC (current corporate)
Mgr of Safety
Bachelors with high GPA
MBA with high GPA

Would Ed Bastian and company give me the time of day?
I think you would be highly competitive.
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