What displacements?
We're adding aircraft.

You are correct we are. Just not in the most senior base. So just when I was getting comfortable and starting to get a line consistently I'm afraid my world may get turned upside down again.

There is not reduction in the size of MSP right now. Wait and see how this vacancy works out. You might see some additional 900 spots in MSP later on, since expressjet did some flying out of there. Yes the 200 base is closing but my guess that will happen sometime next spring. Also I bet a bunch of NYC guys take ATL, so you should be safe in NYC.

I want ATL. a bunch of new hires just before me, in my class, and after me want it. There should be plenty of people (FO, anyway) who want ATL. For captain...I have no clue.

I wouldn't start to worry about displacements until you see it on a bid. Until they, bid what you want, fly what you get.

Can we talk about reserve rules and the QOL that a reserve has?
I am on reserve and since I was a quick upgrade I assume I will be on reserve for the bulk of the time I work for Endeavor. I try not to complain about it because it's not healthy for me, that being said I have a few gripes:
-It is very difficult for me to break min because if they don't call me I can't credit anything towards min that day.
-If I am lucky enough to be awarded a good trip with greater than 4hr of credit in a day and then a few of the legs cancel due to IROP etc I don't get paid for those legs but the guy in the other seat whom is a line holder gets paid.
-2hr call out sucks when you actual house is 3.5-4hrs from the airport and if I was sitting long call I could just sit at home. (I know we would have higher utilization with long call)

I understand the ideology of guys saying don't agree if anyone takes a pay cut on the rolling retention to pay issue. I just want to say I am cool with 83 hours if we can get some reserve rules changed at the same time.
My proposal:
-Every reserve day is worth the 3.9hrs they assign it if you drop a day. If you sit at home you get the 3.9 hours towards your min. This way you don't sit in a crash pad the last week of the month away from home and your family for affective "no pay" because you have worked 74.9999 hrs already that month.
-Cancelation pay for reserve pilots if you get assigned and it cancels same day you get the original pay credit for the day.
-Long call reserve.

If these things got adopted reserve guys could break min and hopefully break 83 hours and now no pay cut.

Am I crazy? Has this been tried before? I am new to this airline and I don't have a great knowledge of the past and what has been done and tried.

Junior guys in seat are forced into reserve because it is so unattractive to the senior guys. Current reserve rules in most cases make compensation less due to less days off and the ability to tweak schedule for good open time pickups. Max line range pay bump nope not for reserve.

Any thoughts?


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What's the consensus on the 200 CA side? Considering the growth on the 900, will there be much desire for the 200 side? I'm trying to figure out how junior it will go.

200 to at least me seems like it's on it's last legs for the next few years. But that's just me. I'll wait for my counter argument to respond

Yes mgmt. knows that they've hit the displacement wall and the $#!^ hits the fan early next year... they are still praying that at least a few MSP guys take the ATL bait first though

Right now there are no displacements... you can't be forced from where you are... you may fall to reserve, but that could happen in any base. or you could move up to a line (better commutable line) who knows at list til the initial and even then probably not til the 1st revision final.

as for getting MSP... well reserve is almost a decade on the 200 (That will be gone in 6 months) and 18 years for the 900.... if you must have MSP, look for SunCountry or SkyWest....MSP is likely a pipe dream for most on property much less a new hire here...