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I do agree their numbers would be different then yours. Perhaps since you recently posted that not only was contract 2012 cost neutral but it funded all the other employees raises you might back that up with a few facts.
Please feel free to explain the following.
1. Pay raises of 20% for 80% of the pilot group and and around 27% for reserves. Cost in direct dollars close to 500 million a year.
2. Indirect raises in training and vacation.
3. When all the work rules were averaged together the jobs to block hour ratio remained the same so no real job loss to work rules.
4. Increase in retirement
5. Profit sharing hitting 16.8% last year for another 300 million to the pilots. Expected to be 19% to 20% this year for another 380 million to the pilot group.
Now Carl please feel free to post where the concessions are that added up to the 800 million additional pay dollars received in 2014 with substantially more due in 2015 and another 300 million to pay for the other employees improvements. Don't just post BS. Put some numbers out there and attach those numbers to contract changes. If your going to try and claim manning as some have post the block hours and number of pilots.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
I guess the fact that ALPA's economic and financial analysts are considered the best there is for looking at the books in the airline industry has escaped you. They are so good they often get hired out as subcontractors for other accounting firms that dont have their expertise. I do agree their numbers would be different then yours. Perhaps since you recently posted that not only was contract 2012 cost neutral but it funded all the other employees raises you might back that up with a few facts.
Please feel free to explain the following.
1. Pay raises of 20% for 80% of the pilot group and and around 27% for reserves. Cost in direct dollars close to 500 million a year.
2. Indirect raises in training and vacation.
3. When all the work rules were averaged together the jobs to block hour ratio remained the same so no real job loss to work rules.
4. Increase in retirement
5. Profit sharing hitting 16.8% last year for another 300 million to the pilots. Expected to be 19% to 20% this year for another 380 million to the pilot group.
Now Carl please feel free to post where the concessions are that added up to the 800 million additional pay dollars received in 2014 with substantially more due in 2015 and another 300 million to pay for the other employees improvements. Don't just post BS. Put some numbers out there and attach those numbers to contract changes. If your going to try and claim manning as some have post the block hours and number of pilots.
I think you are confusing them with BDO.
Scoop - Only kidding