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So did you sell it to new hires?

Caution Terrain

The truth is they all sold it. Hard. As in, you guys know I’m not supposed to say anything but you’re a cool guy and I’m a cool guy so, we’re getting a bunch of planes. You guys will get west coast upgrades faster if you vote for it. There was literally one instructor in the SLC flight safety that was brutally honest about it being garbage.

How can SAPA be our unified voice if they poll us about new hire voting, we tell them, and then they vote the other way? New hires weren’t able to vote when I started and somehow this got pushed through in the night.
Unions aren’t everything, but if you use them effectively, it enforces certain action on the companies part. There is a grievance process that cannot be ignored, at will. It adds up to legally, enforceable action.

Sure, tell me I’m wrong and that we’re all doing fine over here. Like I never worked anywhere else.
We will barely make it through 2018 with the 45 airframes and attrition. 2019 and beyond is questionable.

rickair7777

This is why NOBODY lets new-hires vote...

MidnightHauler

Actually, many new hires I talked to voted no, a few hundred didn't vote at all, yet a few senior captains I talked to voted yes. Many new hires had nothing to do with this garbage since most of them had no clue what the hell that TA involved. There were a ton of 10+ year pilots who voted yes because of the increased 401K contribution.
Just so you now, I've been here a little less than two years and voted no. I was hoping for a little more negotiation as far as pay raises, but didn't expect rainbows and unicorns either.

word302

This guy gets it.

word302

The new hires I have talked to that voted yes regret it. They also support limiting new hire voting for that very reason.

RemoveB4Flight

Regardless of how they voted in the previous TA, they shouldn’t be allowed. This would eliminate any reason for management and/or instructors to sell new hires on voting.
Especially considering that new hires haven’t had any chance to experience working for Skywest yet, how could they possibly have formed an opinion on what they would like to change about it?

MidnightHauler

I heard there were around 700 or so that didn't vote at all. Would've been nice to have full participation.

sheriff5113

I don't think I can do it any more team...and it just doesn't make sense how we get paid so little but have such insane responsibility.

I'm venting: I left my last career as a Peace Officer because of all the pilot shortage hype. Pay was supposed to be getting better and QOL. However, My paychecks are between $943.00 and $1034.00. I went from making 85k a year to less than 24k with no relief in sight.

There is absolutely no flying to be had and it's impossible to pick up trips to make some extra cheddar while on reserve since we cannot fly on reserve days. Also, for QOL I have to commute to my base, and I'm away 18 days of the month. Never see the family.

It's only been 9 months, and my peers and Captains are encouraging, "Hang in there man, it gets better," but honestly I can't afford this lifestyle anymore. Good luck ya'll. Hope you all make it to where you wanna go.

hawk21

Do we work at the same airline? You must be on the 175 in Chicago.