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Old 08-11-2021 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
All in the PPM and I'm too lazy to look up the specific numbers but: The 115% is for company open time trips something like two weeks out with reserve staffing at some % less than Min Reserve required.
130% kicks in at something like 10 days out again with Reserve staffing below a certain percentage of Min required.
150% kicks in 5 days out, and crew scheduling can immediately put a reserve on it, or they have to assign it to the first pilot who tried to pick it up. SInce we're almost always below min staffing any trip in company open time will end up in one of those categories, it's just pilots playing the bidding game of I'm willing to pick it up eventually, or being afraid someone else is willing to do it for less. The better the trip, the more likely it is to go for straight time on the 22nd, and the worse trips end up waiting til 150%, or get broken up and assigned to reserves from throughout the system.
JrMan is in reality an outdated term from when they would start calling in reverse seniority number from the most JrMan available, and involuntarily assigning flying at 150% to the first sucker that answered their phone. Just as Jetski refers to any personal watercraft, or band-aid means a self adhesive bandage, JrMan is still used to mean 150% pay for company posted open time trips, but now you can answer the phone say I'm not willing to fly and there is no consequence or complaint sent to your chief pilot.
Thanks for that explanation. Seems like those trips normally are not very appetizing if they get to that 150%. Are they just a lot of short legs? Or is there something else that makes them not wanted?
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Old 08-11-2021 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mando314
Thanks for that explanation. Seems like those trips normally are not very appetizing if they get to that 150%. Are they just a lot of short legs? Or is there something else that makes them not wanted?
Largely it’s that we can’t drop anything, so pilots are forced into minimum days off month after month, so with your already very limited time off you’re not going to go in and pick up a trip at 115% or even 150% pay.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ratm0820
You keep running back to junior Manning because you can’t defend the 4 other things I said because you’re a little company scab. Shut up
“Scab”
You again demonstrate for all your knowledge and understanding.
Others addressed your other “wants” to you.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
“Scab”
You again demonstrate for all your knowledge and understanding.
Others addressed your other “wants” to you.
good one William Shakespeare
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Old 08-11-2021 | 11:12 AM
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Call me Bill
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Old 08-11-2021 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratm0820
you’re a little company scab. Shut up
You have now lost any credibility that you may have tried to fake.
the use of the term Scab is reserved for people who cross a picket and you are throwing it out there as an insult to all Skywesr pilots. Yes there are those who accuse us of being scabs just by the fact we are not unionized, but by you just throwing that term out there because you've been called out for your lack of knowledge about our PPM shows you've lost the discussion. If you indeed have such a low opinion of your own company pilots I suggest you resign and go to Republic ASAP.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratm0820
Largely it’s that we can’t drop anything, so pilots are forced into minimum days off month after month, so with your already very limited time off you’re not going to go in and pick up a trip at 115% or even 150% pay.
So riddle me why trips do go out the door at 115%, 130%, and 150% and why the company hasn't had to resort to 200% pay.
Once again your ignorance and misunderstanding of facts and twisting them to them negative vibes is showing its ugly face.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 12:25 PM
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Riddle me why we don’t deserve work rules, soft pay, etc. that our competitors offer their pilots? Or at the very least should come to the bargaining table with those improvements in mind? You like to laugh at the thought of not having ready reserve but guess what republic doesn’t have it and they manage. As far as 150 %, yes that has worked so far for the company, but as attrition picks up creating even worse staffing problems will it work in the future? Lastly the base discriminatory travel benefits are a joke.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratm0820
Riddle me why we don’t deserve work rules, soft pay, etc. that our competitors offer their pilots? Or at the very least should come to the bargaining table with those improvements in mind? You like to laugh at the thought of not having ready reserve but guess what republic doesn’t have it and they manage. As far as 150 %, yes that has worked so far for the company, but as attrition picks up creating even worse staffing problems will it work in the future? Lastly the base discriminatory travel benefits are a joke.
Because your competitors are union shops and have collectively fought hard for those gains. Given the size of SkyWest, if you guys would join the fight and demand improvements, the conditions at all regional carriers would likely improve.
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Old 08-11-2021 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Because your competitors are union shops and have collectively fought hard for those gains. Given the size of SkyWest, if you guys would join the fight and demand improvements, the conditions at all regional carriers would likely improve.
Just out of curiosity have you actually worked for a regional with a union shop? Do regionals need somebody to protect their flying via scope? The majority of “gains” made at any regional have been more related to supply and demand, most gains in QOL and pay in the recent years have been due a lack of surplus of pilots.

We didn’t need a Union to “fight for us” for higher pay. The lack of applicants led to management raising the pay rate after we had already signed a new contract.
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