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08-18-2022, 07:49 PM

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AerChungus

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Is there still a link to the original TFAYD video? Or is that lost to the sands of time and CC's legal team?

08-18-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TFAYD

oh - they consult with SAPA on how to best communicate it. SAPA is more of a sounding board on what is the most palatable message to the pilot group - that’s it. Think of them as a focus group for message testing.

I have witnessed it first hand

it’s a great move by management though. And pilots here think they are “saving” 1.8% by having no representation. Reality is they are losing about 40% now simply because they have no one to represent them.

08-18-2022, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by goodridecowboy

Maybe I misunderstand but it is just absolutely insane to me that the company can amend our agreement with the pilot group unilaterally. Love SAPA.

Yep. But as it has been said, it's a genius move by management. The bonus scheme is gone and the money they likely projected to spend on captain payouts over the next 24-48 months and beyond is just rolled into the new TA so it gives the illusion of a great deal when in fact as it has been in the past, they are just moving the same money around to make the pilots think they are doing better than they really are. A pay rise is coming but keep in mind when you vote, you are also losing money already now...and that is before its even published.

I can not wait to watch and see how SAPA sells this.

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08-19-2022, 04:48 AM

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And pilots here think they are “saving” 1.8% by having no representation. Reality is they are losing about 40% now simply because they have no one to represent them.

Is there anything currently in the works within Skywest to join ALPA?

08-19-2022, 05:49 AM

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Is there anything currently in the works within Skywest to join ALPA?

Nope- always some grassroots thing with like 10 people but it never gets traction.

This upcoming TA will tell more. If it's garbage then maybe a union will make more sense. If it's good then why get a union when we get just about the same results without paying dues.

My personal opinion - regionals make the gains the majors get possible. It happens in many professions. Entry level people at the bottom of the career field do the work while those at the top of the field reap the benefits. Seeing how well union negotiations went for Mesa and Horizon and how many jobs were saved by the unions at TSA and Compass what is the point of paying dues to an organization that has made it's priorities (mainline) crystal clear.