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Old 11-24-2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Westernflight
Unfortunately here at SkyWest we have no lack of company apologists. First thing I'd like to see is the COMPLETE bid awards published. I'm calling SAPA once a week asking for this. If enough people started doing the same we might see something. It's fine if they tell me no, but the calls won't stop. If they got 100 calls a day for a year I'm sure something would happen. May not be transparently but it will be something.
I keep hearing of people that will file a GMT or PIC's for PBS but oddly enough, I never hear of any resolution. I understand you can't get details about everything, but we should be able to see a report that says "PIC filed for blah blah, and this was the companies response." Instead we get just a number of resolved with no info at all. Why is it so hard to maintain documentation within SAPA?

I think a great start would be to give us a report of what was awarded and what the required min value was all the way down the list. It should be easy (and hopefully not to much of an invasion of privacy) to list the reserve awards as well. For each domicile start at #1 seniority and list what the line award was (Hours) and what the RMV was at that seniority. We could even add in TAFB and # of days off easy enough. If awarded reserve, instead of hours just list the reserve line number.

This would show two things. First how far down the list it is awarding minimum or waived default. Second it will show how screwed the upper seniority folks are since we need 88 hours for our line to complete while junior folks will get 77 hours.

It will never happen because it will expose so many flaws with the PBS system. But the above report would be easy to publish and wouldn't have any security exposure. It would allow people to see if reserve lines they wanted went junior and if junior people were getting awarded better lines in the name of optimization. We already allow all reserves or those that sit reserve during the month to see all the other reserves schedules. I know reserves are sub human and still need to pay their dues (sarcasm if you missed it), but the privacy argument is pretty null and void when you consider that.
Old 11-24-2015 | 12:55 PM
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How many crews does the latest email equate to, for the ERJ in LAX in May?
Seems there will be a big transition push as well as transfers, and how should this effect SFO?

Useful insight is much appreciated.

And yes, PBS sucks!

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Old 11-24-2015 | 06:39 PM
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What does PEN4 mean on sked+?
Old 11-24-2015 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Westernflight
Unfortunately here at SkyWest we have no lack of company apologists. First thing I'd like to see is the COMPLETE bid awards published. I'm calling SAPA once a week asking for this. If enough people started doing the same we might see something. It's fine if they tell me no, but the calls won't stop. If they got 100 calls a day for a year I'm sure something would happen. May not be transparently but it will be something.
I have pushed for this since I have worked here. I'm tired of the guys saying I like my privacy and don't want people to know where I am...... Since they are wanted that much by the wonderful flight attendants.
Old 11-24-2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
What does PEN4 mean on sked+?
You're pending termination. What did you do?
Old 11-24-2015 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
You're pending termination. What did you do?

Usually the CP calls and tells you why you're being fired... before they slap the dreaded PEN4 on you.
Old 11-24-2015 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Usually the CP calls and tells you why you're being fired... before they slap the dreaded PEN4 on you.
Haha, they took a trip off that was awarded in PBS and replaced it with a different trip. Not complaining, but it's the first time a trip has been removed from my schedule and swapped with something else. I was getting close to the 100 in 672, but I'm not sure if that triggered it or not.

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Old 11-24-2015 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Haha, they took a trip off that was awarded in PBS and replaced it with a different trip. Not complaining, but it's the first time a trip has been removed from my schedule and swapped with something else. I was getting close to the 100 in 672, but I'm not sure if that triggered it or not.
Your trip was taken by the training department for IOE purposes, so there's an IOE guy in your seat.

PEN just means "Pending." If they don't assign anything and it's less than 72 hours to your report time, you get "DIOE" which means "Displaced for IOE", which is like manna from Heaven. It's only happened to me once here...
Old 11-24-2015 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Your trip was taken by the training department for IOE purposes, so there's an IOE guy in your seat.

PEN just means "Pending." If they don't assign anything and it's less than 72 hours to your report time, you get "DIOE" which means "Displaced for IOE", which is like manna from Heaven. It's only happened to me once here...
Turbo,
How did your bid turn out this month??
Old 11-25-2015 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Turbo,
How did your bid turn out this month??
92 hrs credit and 11 days off. Ugh. But, I did get 50% P1 trips, one P2 and one P3, so it could've been a lot worse. No PNs or CNs. Then again, I'm working the 24th-26th, but those are all standups, meaning I get to be home during the day.

This 90+ hour min credit, min days off stuff needs to stop. But who am I kidding? As long as OO can keep filling classes, things won't ever change.
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