paxhauler85

That's not correct. Under no circumstance can you fly beyond 16 hours of duty.

If you flew 18 hours of duty, I suggest you file an ASAP report. If the Feds find out, you could be violated.

Utah

CS is using the 18 hours for reserves. Flew with one last year scheduled that way and on a break went in and talked the CP about it. He said it was legal. I checked with SAPA and they concurred.

There's some legal stuff that backs up the companies interpretation of this. Totally BS, but they're using it.

WesternSkies

Wth. Only in the last few months I've switched from "this needs fixed" to "the apps need updating!"

saxman66

If CS is using reserves up to 18 hours, than that is definitely not legal. You can only extend 2 hours beyond the max of 16 hours if a delay comes up later, AND the crew member agrees to it. If they knowingly give you 18 hours that far in advance it is illegal, plain and simple. Refuse it and hang up.

samc

Can anyone give me the approx time to hold DEN on the 175 as a FO?

Are they still awarding the 175 to new hires? Does being typed in it help?

Thanks.

GiggidyGone

I had a situation a few weeks ago. On reserve they assigned a trip but due to mx delay by the time we were to take off it would taken us past our 16 hours of duty before we would have landed. When talking to crew scheduling about it they didn't argue at all and put us up in a hotel. Had that 2 hour extension been available to them they would have used it. They didn't even bring it up. It would have allowed us to finish the trip.

In my opinion that 16 hours is a hard number and cannot be planned to be extended under any circumstance. I guess this is a scenario in which the pilot will have to exercise their judgment on the reg. In my case I'm not accepting anything that puts me beyond 16 hours of duty (scheduled) on reserve period. But that's just me and my understanding of the reg.


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peepz

A year plus seems to be very plausible.

There is very little movement on the plane right now.

word302

Most junior EJET guy in Denver was hired in July. They are awarding limited new hires the 175. Just a warning, you will be stuck on reserve for a Looooong time. Seniority progression is much better on the CRJ as senior CRJ guys are transitioning over to the 175. Might be worth it to add another type to your certificate. Then again, they may want you on the 175 since you're already typed. Who knows.

rickair7777

In advance is illegal IMO. Ex. 0400 RAP, called at 1500 for a show of 1700 to work a schedule that ends with a revenue flight blocking in at 2030. Not legal.

Unforeseen delay ONCE YOU HAVE REPORTED FOR WORK, then it's legal to apply the two hour extension to the 16 hours that started at the beginning of RAP. Same scenario, but last flight scheduled to block in at 1930, but then gets delayed and will not make it until after 2000. Legal to extend.

The theory here is that been with a 0400 RAP, maybe you slept in until 0930 are plenty rested to work until 2200. Doesn't take into account the fact that you were also supposed to be ready to roll out of bed at 0400 and go to work if called.

Watch out for CS building an impossible schedule to establish initial legality and then trying to extend later after the "unforeseen" delay occurs. Example: They call you out for a deadhead that leaves 17 minutes after they called. Ooops, you missed the flight, wait for the next flight six hours later, call the delay "unforeseen", and extend the FDP as needed. Not legal IMO.

Ronaldo

Thanks, I'm entering year 6 of RSV at RAH. Now getting displaced again commuting to RSV on the east coast. So several of us are thinking of giving up on Republic and coming over to Skywest where at least we can drive to work or have a short west commute. Giving up 9 years seniority is a tough decision though.

Before anyone asks, no I won't move from DEN to IND/CMH/PHL/PIT/EWR. Starting over at a new airline is preferable.

Thanks again for the answer.